The Athletic’s award-winning beat reporter debates Jacson on whether the 2024 Seahawks season was successful (4:44), and the two take a magnifying glass to John Schneider’s performance as GM (22:02).

They also discuss offseason priorities, reasons why Ryan Grubb got canned, and the steps Seattle needs to take to become a true contender (41:56). Plus — how much is too much to pay Geno Smith and DK Metcalf (1:11:57)?

Finally, hear who the pair thinks should be MVP and who will beat whom in the Super Bowl (1:43:13).

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