Great Practice. Great Life. by Atticus

See Through Persuasion and Take Back Your Truth with Ronald Chapman II | Ep. 150


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In an age of constant information, it's easy to feel lost in the noise. On this episode of Great Practice, Great Life, Steve Riley welcomes back attorney and author Ronald Chapman II to discuss how to navigate our complex digital world and take back your own truth.

Drawing on his experiences as a Marine Corps JAG officer and nationally recognized trial lawyer, Ronald offers practical ways to think clearly in an algorithm-shaped media landscape. He shares strategies from Truth and Persuasion: In the Digital Revolution, showing how recognizing cognitive biases and applying systems thinking can strengthen your narrative and leadership.

Their conversation moves from the psychology of decision-making to the modern "tribes" formed by our media diets, with touchpoints to Daniel Kahneman, Carl Sagan, and Carl Jung's call to "make the unconscious conscious." They explore how tailored messaging contributes to fragmentation—and why that matters for lawyers speaking to clients, teams, and juries. Ronald underscores the value of introspection and clear communication, encouraging critical thinking, grounded inputs, and well-researched information.

As Ronald and Steve examine the interplay of truth and persuasion, they emphasize authentic dialogue with yourself and others. Ronald's reflections on his career and growth testify to the power of integrity in both personal and professional realms. They close with a call to embrace complexity, think deliberately, and lead with purpose.

In this episode, you will hear:

  • An exploration of truth and persuasion in the digital age, informed by Ronald's experience as a Marine Corps JAG officer and trial lawyer
  • How cognitive biases and systems thinking can enhance personal narratives, legal strategy, and leadership
  • The impact of algorithm-driven curation on individual perspectives and broader societal fragmentation
  • Why media "diets" and tailored messaging create modern tribes—and what that means for juries, clients, and families
  • System 1 vs. System 2 thinking (Kahneman) and practical ways to guard against snap judgments
  • The role of authenticity, introspection, and Jung's "make the unconscious conscious" in maintaining integrity
  • Practical steps to reclaim focus, choose better inputs, and communicate more persuasively in a fragmented environment

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Supporting Resources:

  • Ronald W. Chapman II: ronaldwchapman.com
  • Episode 142: Stop Hiding Behind the Law: Leading with Truth with Ronald W. Chapman II: atticusadvantage.com/podcast/stop-hiding-behind-the-law-ronald-w-chapman-ii
  • Truth and Persuasion: In the Digital Revolution by Ronald W. Chapman II: www.amazon.com/Truth-Persuasion-Revolution-Ronald-Chapman-ebook/dp/B0DNDC6G4N
  • Free Chapter of Truth and Persuasion: ronaldwchapman.com/book
  • Chapman Law Group: www.chapmanlawgroup.com
  • Heretic with Hugh Grant: www.imdb.com/title/tt28015403
  • My Great Life Focus: mygreatlifefocus.com

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