Can you lead with heart and still drive a massive profit? In this episode of Making Sales Social, host Brynne Tillman sits down with Tom Jackobs, a sales growth coach and creator of the "Selling with Heart" methodology.

Tom shares his powerful origin story, from the brink of bankruptcy in the fitness industry to developing a consultative approach that skyrocketed his closing rate to 90%. Together, they explore why storytelling is the ultimate "pattern interrupt" in a boardroom, the shift from outdated sales tactics like BANT to heart-centered frameworks, and how to build radical trust by being willing to tell a prospect "no."