Service Design Show

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  • How to effectively measure a service / Tim Dekker / Circle #14

    Let's talk about a service designer's favorite topic... measuring impact. Why is it so d*mn hard!? We'll get to that in a minute.

    Of course, the idea behind measuring the impact of your work is smart. When done right, it helps you to stay on track. Make sure your efforts actually make a positive contribution. And show you if you need to redirect your efforts to something else.

    But often, we find that many things inside organizations are measured because they are easy to express in numbers... not because they are the right indicators of success. And this is exactly the challenge we run into as a service design community.

    Showing the impact of our work across an entire service or customer journey is not easy. But this shouldn't stop us from trying, right?

    That's why in a recent Circle community session, we explored:

    • How to overcome the limitations of existing ways of measuring
    • How to measure things that span multiple channels and departments
    • How to build a useful CX dashboard
    • Tim Dekker hosted the conversation, and I invited Tim to share the highlights from that session with you.

      --- [ 1. EPISODE GUIDE ] ---

      00:00 Welcome to the Show

      04:30 Why this topic?
      05:45 Who is Tim?
      06:45 What do we have to gain?
      10:00 Stuck in the middle
      12:30 Leading and lagging indicators
      14:30 Justifying our value
      16:30 Where are these metrics
      19:00 Getting started
      24:30 Building your CX dashboard
      27:45 Who wanted to hear this
      30:00 Visualize the outcome
      32:00 Physical services
      34:00 How do you sell it
      40:00 Lessons learned
      42:30 New questions
      44:30 The illusion of control
      45:45 Key takeaways

      --- [ 2. CIRCLE ] ---

      If you'd like to be part of these conversations as they happen rather than just getting the summary on the podcast, consider joining us in the Circle.

      www.servicedesignshow.com/circle/

      50 min
    • Understanding services and design in China / Zichuan Xiong / Episode 158

      Here's a question you might not think about daily... How is service design practiced in China?

      I'm always eager to learn about the (subtle) differences in how our field is perceived within different cultures. Why? Because seeing that there are other ways to approach things enriches my perspective and keeps me grounded about my way of working.

      The goal isn't to copy what's being done in other places but rather to understand its reasoning and philosophy. That's why I was excited to have a conversation with Zichian Xiong recently on the Show. He currently lives and works in the USA, but Zichuan was also at the forefront when service design started to emerge in China. As he's seen both worlds, Zichuan is in a great position to articulate the relevant similarities and differences.

      To get a good understanding of these similarities and differences, you'll hear about:

      • Who is driving the design movement? (it's not consultancies)
      • Which kinds of services are being designed in China and which ones aren't?
      • What is the state of design education?
      • Investing the time to listen and learn from stories like this, which give you a broader understanding of our field, is good practice for any professional. They help you to get out of your comfort zone and might hold the clue to connect the dots or spark a completely new insight.

        I found this an eye-opening conversation, with much more to be explored. So it's exciting to think about where design could be heading in the next 5 years.

        --- [ 1. GUIDE ] ---

        00:00 Welcome to episode 158

        03:00 Who is Zichuan
        04:15 Lightning round
        07:45 Zichuans backstory
        11:45 The context of service design in China
        18:00 Perception of services
        24:45 Design in China
        27:15 The implications
        32:00 Only two industries
        37:00 State of design education
        41:30 The next frontier
        47:45 The one thing you need to know
        52:30 Final thoughts

        --- [ 2. LINKS ] ---

        * https://www.linkedin.com/in/zichuan-xiong-94aa3b13/

        --- [ 3. NEXT STEP ] ---

        Looking for more? We've got you covered. Click the link below to join the Service Design Show community.

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        You'll get access to inspiring stories and practical advice that helps to level up your service design career!

        57 min
      • How to set up for successful service design projects? / James Field / Circle #13

        I could have seen this coming... That's the last thing you want to say when your project isn't going well.

        To minimize this risk, you'll need to identify red flags early on and work to create conditions for success. But it's challenging to talk about these topics with internal stakeholders before your project begins.

        People are eager to start; it makes sense. And you don't want to be seen as the one who is delaying things unnecessarily or putting roadblocks up.

        Before you climb a mountain, it's wise to take advice from someone who's done it before so that you don't get stuck halfway on your journey. In this case, you're the one who's climbed the mountain of a service design project, and your internal stakeholder is eager to embark on their first trip.

        So how do you make it evident that you're doing your internal stakeholder a service by addressing the conditions for success early on? You're helping them avoid common pitfalls and saving them the embarrassment of cleaning up the mess when things go sour.

        Well, in this episode, you'll hear three examples of how service design professionals have successfully managed to create the space to have these conversations with their stakeholders.

        One of my takeaways is that you need to have a clear process and structure in place that guides you through the tough questions at the start of a project.

        Enjoy the conversation and keep making a positive impact :)

        - Marc

        --- [ EPISODE GUIDE ] ---

        00:00 Welcome to the Show

        04:00 Who is James
        04:45 Why this topic?
        08:45 What gives it away?
        10:15 Do we need this?
        12:15 Ignition conversation canvas
        21:00 Kick-off workshop
        24:00 Increased accountability
        25:15 The learning mindset
        28:00 The value is in the process
        29:15 Framing service design
        31:15 Knowing what's relevant
        36:15 Slow down
        39:30 The green flags
        42:00 You want to hear it's important
        44:15 Just do this one thing
        47:15 Closing thoughts

        --- [ CIRCLE ] ---

        Join our community of in-house service design professionals at the Circle.

        www.servicedesignshow.com/circle/

        49 min
      • How to achieve goals that are bigger than yourself / Chris Do / Episode #157

        No, it's not the latest shoes... What does it take for a professional athlete to perform at their best?

        Sure, she needs to have talent and be in top physical shape. But that's not enough. The top performing athletes are, for example, rigorous regarding their sleep, diet, and mental well-being. These things are the foundation for them to deliver a world-class performance.

        Now, I have a weird assumption. A design professional and an athlete might have more in common than meets the eye. I bet you that the top-performing design professionals also have a set of rigorous habits, routines, and rituals that allow them to deliver their most impactful work.

        I want to test this assumption in what might become an entirely new series on the Show. And who would be a better candidate for the first conversation about this than Chris Do? Chris Do is an educator and content creator who daily impacts the lives of thousands, if not millions, of creative professionals.

        So I invited Chris to get down and personal. In this episode, you'll hear Chris talk about his relationship with aspects like mental health, physical health, and goal setting. Basically, we're trying to demystify what allows Chris to do what he does on a fundamental level.

        So if you want to learn more about the life of a professional "design athlete" and what that means for you, don't miss this one!

        This might sound a bit like clickbait, but I got amazed more than once during this conversation. Chris does some things that are entirely different from what I would describe as common sense :)

        Enjoy the episode!

        --- [ GUIDE ] ---

        00:00 Welcome to episode 157

        07:20 Who is Chris
        09:00 Lightning round
        11:00 Habits, rituals and, routines
        13:00 Setting meaningful goals
        17:15 Calibrating your internal compass
        20:00 Nurturing reflective thinking
        23:30 Expanding self-awareness
        30:00 The morning routine
        34:15 Looking for problems
        38:00 Knowing who you are
        43:30 The end of the day
        46:00 Typical workday
        48:15 Importance of breaks
        49:15 Defining productivity
        54:45 Finding a sense of accomplishment
        59:15 Process versus outcome
        1:02:45 Replacing harmful habits
        1:06:15 Productivity habits
        1:08:15 Final thoughts

        --- [ LINKS ] ---

        * https://www.linkedin.com/in/thechrisdo/

        * https://www.youtube.com/c/thefuturishere

        Books

        * How to Tell a Story - https://amzn.to/3e9KZeW

        * What's Your Problem - https://amzn.to/3edrbaB
        * The Compound Effect - https://amzn.to/3BafqL7

        Podcasts

        * https://radiolab.org

        * https://themoth.org/radio-hour

        --- [ SELLING SERVICE DESIGN WITH CONFIDENCE ] ---

        Get your clients, colleagues, managers and CEOs as excited about service design as you are.

        https://servicedesignshow.com/confidence

        1 hr 12 min
      • The simple way to get buy-in for service design?

        I wish it were different, but… The reality is that service design still isn’t business as usual.

        This means that you need to do a lot of evangelizing as part of your job. Getting business stakeholders, clients, and even your colleagues to buy into the value of a human-centered, design-driven way of working.

        I see that many service design professionals rely on their improvisation skills and hope to come up with the right message at the right time. If you’re lucky, this approach can work, but it’s not the most effective. So these professionals struggle, get stuck and eventually become frustrated because they can’t get the people around them to see the benefits of their work.

        But did you know there is a remarkably simple way to get over this? Instead of improvisation and hope, you need a structured process and the right frameworks. What is this process, and what are these frameworks?

        Well, I’ve invited 7 participants who recently graduated from the Selling Service Design with Confidence program to share their learnings with you.

        So in this episode, you’ll get practical tips on how to:

        • Create a customer case next to a business case.
        • Get invited to the important conversations sooner.
        • Bring business goals and customer value closer together.
        • And I’m sure you’ll find many more valuable lessons in this episode. So if you want to spend less time talking about your work and more time doing the work, then you don’t want to miss this conversation.

          I always enjoy these episodes because there’s no substitute for the stories of professionals who are experiencing day-to-day challenges (and wins). This is as real as it gets.

          [ 1. Episode Guide ]

          00:00 Welcome to the episode

          03:30 The professionals
          04:15 Dimitris (ux to sd)
          10:45 Maxe (inhouse)
          17:45 Manuel (inhouse - startup)
          25:30 Kiki (inhouse - public sector)
          34:30 Martin (inhouse - teleco)
          43:00 Lyn (inhouse - scale up)
          52:30 Jo (agency - public sector)
          1:03:00 Closing thoughts

          [ 2. Selling Service Design with Confidence ]

          For more information and instructions on how to apply head over to:

          https://servicedesignshow.com/confidence/ 

          1 hr 4 min
        • What service design professionals need to know about AI / Jillian Powers / Episode #156

          It's not a secret... Every day we are outsourcing more and more of our decisions to AI algorithms.

          Some of these decisions are frivolous, like determining if that's a cat in the photo. Other decisions are of much higher stake, like whether you will get that medical treatment.

          Especially with the last kind of decisions, we'd better ensure that these algorithms are designed and used responsibly. And according to Jillian Powers, service design professionals must play a vital role in this process.

          This means we need to get familiar and comfortable with this new technology. But how? Well, in this episode, Jillian gives a "data science 101" for designers. I assure you that there won't be any complex computer math that you need to understand. On the contrary, you'll hear that bringing the human perspective into the conversation is the thing that's currently missing.

          This is one of those episodes that shines a light on a blind spot that you didn't even realize you had. So grab your notebook and click the link below! I feel Jillian does a great job at demystifying AI to the point that it might even get you excited to get involved :)

          Enjoy the conversation and keep making a positive impact!

          --- [ 1. GUIDE ] ---

          00:00 Welcome to episode 156

          03:30 Who is Jillian
          04:30 Lightning round
          06:30 Jillian's journey
          10:45 Unpacking AI
          15:45 Understanding the AI backend
          19:30 Things to be mindful of
          22:15 It's up to the humans
          23:45 When is it unethical not to use AI
          24:45 The role of service design
          27:30 The good and bad examples
          29:30 Where are the service designers
          32:30 How to make AI better
          34:45 AI in the design process
          37:00 Working with biases
          38:45 How do we get involved
          42:15 When do people reach out
          44:45 Moments of entry
          49:30 Where to start
          52:15 The biggest misconceptions
          54:45 Is it for me?
          56:15 Final thoughts

          --- [ 2. LINKS ] ---

          • https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-powers-phd-6b7b4420/
          • Episode with Carly Burton (YouTube) - https://youtu.be/aBQyUQ0UJWc
          • Algorithmic Justice League - https://www.ajl.org
          • Book: Weapons Of Math Destruction - https://amzn.to/3A619gm
          • Anatomy of AI - https://anatomyof.ai/
          • --- [ 3. CIRCLE ] ---

            Join our private community for in-house service design professionals who want to make a change in their organisation.

            https://servicedesignshow.com/circle

            1 hr
          • How design principles help to make better decisions faster / Wolfram Thurm / Episode #155

            Wouldn't it be great if... Delivering a great customer experience wasn't just a "nice to have" when there's time left but an actual strategic priority that guides decision-making?

            I'm sure you know many examples of (expensive) service failures that could have been prevented if the voice of the customer had been part of the conversations inside the company. Of course, this is precisely one of the things we try to achieve with service design.

            The problem is that we often don't yet have the authority to drive critical decisions. So no matter which arguments we bring forward when push comes to shove, in the end, it's always going to be the "HiPPO" in the room that calls the shots.

            Wolfram Thurm and his team were also running into this challenge. It was hard for them to get the value of design across so that other business stakeholders would see the benefits for them. Consequently, many times decisions were made that weren't in favor of the customer and the business. To the frustration of everyone involved.

            Fueled by this frustration and the opportunity to improve, Wolfram set out to find a way to structurally have better conversations inside the organization. After quite a journey, they managed to design a company-wide tool that now allows everyone to make better decisions faster.

            In this episode, Wolfram shares everything about the tool they created, how they use it, and the struggles they had to overcome to get here.

            --- [ GUIDE ] ---

            00:00 Welcome to episode 155

            03:30 Who is Wolfram
            06:30 Lightning round
            10:00 What are design principles
            12:00 Where did it start
            17:45 Living the principles
            22:45 What's in it for them
            26:00 Bottom up or top down
            29:30 When do you use them
            34:30 The Gojek design principles
            37:30 Supporting case studies
            40:00 The workshop
            43:45 Who owns this
            47:45 Second iteration
            51:45 Are there shortcuts
            57:00 Where do you start
            1:00:30 Finding the mandate
            1:04:30 Key advice
            1:06:45 Closing thoughts

            --- [ LINKS ] ---

            • https://www.linkedin.com/in/wolfram-thurm-1337b2a7/
            • Creative Confidence (book) - https://amzn.to/3aIB26U
            • The Shape of Design (book) - https://amzn.to/3RG8zz8
            • --- [ CIRCLE COMMUNITY ] ---

              Learn more about the community for in-house service design professionals.

              https://servicedesignshow.com/circle

              1 hr 9 min
            • A radically different approach to participatory design / Victor Udoewa / Episode #154

              Who doesn't want this... To come up with smart solutions for relevant challenges that are immediately embraced by the end-users.

              Well, in this week's episode of the Show, Victor Udoewa shares a radical approach to the design process that increases the chance you'll actually accomplish this.

              But first, let's quickly look at why solutions don't get adopted. It's often not due to bad intentions. Many times it has to do with the fact that a wrong judgment call has been made about what's important.

              Because as a design professional, you're -implicitly- imposing your ideas, values, and norms onto the process. You are in a strong position of power, whether you like it or not. The problem is that this leads to solutions derived from a single -often mainstream- worldview.  Again, this isn't something that professionals set out to do. It happens because of the nature of the current design process.

              So is there something we can do about this? According to Victor, there is! We, starting with the design professional, have to give up power.

              The community and the users must lead the design process, from start to end, from top to bottom. But can this truly be done, or is it just wishful thinking? And is there still a role for the professional designer when this happens?

              Victor has a thing or two to say about these and some other key questions.

              So if you'd also like to work on more meaningful challenges and come to more impactful solutions, click the link below and soak in this inspiring conversation.

              It's great to get people on the Show who challenge our common design practices like Victor. And to be able to share these stories with you.

              Enjoy the conversation and keep making a positive impact :)

              --- [ GUIDE ] ---

              00:00 Welcome to episode 154

              04:45 Who is Victor
              05:30 Lightning round
              08:45 The episode take-away
              09:45 What is radical participatory design
              15:15 Victor's journey
              19:15 The benefits
              24:00 Barriers to adoption
              27:15 The response from the design community
              31:45 The role of the design professional
              37:45 Where does it start
              41:45 The tensions
              45:45 What are good challenges
              52:45 The evolution
              55:45 Taking the first step
              1:01:45 A smart hack
              1:02:45 What awaits you
              1:05:15 Closing thoughts

              --- [ LINKS ] ---

              • https://www.linkedin.com/in/udoewa/
              • Decolonizing Methodologies: Research and Indigenous Peoples - https://amzn.to/3yHlYht
              • Research Is Ceremony: Indigenous Research Methods - https://amzn.to/3ObjtcZ
              • Sand Talk - https://amzn.to/3O4Linp
              • Indigenous Research Methodologies - https://amzn.to/3P6NwEh
              • Applying Indigenous Research Methods: Storying with Peoples and Communities - https://amzn.to/3PcgJxt
              • --- [ BOOKS ] ---

                • Designs for the Pluriverse - https://amzn.to/3P7pDMK
                • Stand Your Ground - https://amzn.to/3RvkvDN
                • Fledgling (fiction, Afrofuturism) - https://amzn.to/3AKbsc9
                • Art of Gathering - https://amzn.to/3IJum4P
                • Black Futures - https://amzn.to/3AWw4Oe
                • Latinx Rising (An anthology) - https://amzn.to/3uLxs2q
                • A Promised Land - https://amzn.to/3PnjDPC
                • His Name Is George Floyd - https://amzn.to/3yGi1cV
                • Soul of a Woman - https://amzn.to/3IBUtdP
                • The Sum of Us - https://amzn.to/3PrGLMV
                • Thinking in Systems - https://amzn.to/3nZoCdN
                • The Bennet Women (fiction) - https://amzn.to/3P908um
                • --- [ HOW TO EXPLAIN SERVICE DESIGN ] ---

                  Learn what it takes to get your clients, colleagues, managers, CEOs and even grandmas as excited about service design as you are.

                  https://servicedesignshow.com/free-course

                  1 hr 7 min
                • Creating the space to work on more meaningful challenges / Tom Foster / Episode #153

                  There's no doubt about it... Over the last few years, design has gained a lot of momentum in the business space.

                  It's encouraging to see that design is slowly but surely getting a seat at the table. But at which price has this raise come? And are we willing to pay this price?

                  When you zoom out a bit, you'll quickly notice that it's often the "easy to digest" form of design that is praised, the form where the focus primarily lies on gaining short-term benefits and incremental improvements.

                  While that's a space where design can add value, it's not the space where it shines, according to Tom Foster. In this episode with Tom, I talk about how you can regain the space and time again to work on bigger, dare I say, more meaningful challenges.

                  Now, if you think that's going hard in your organization, mind that Tom has worked in many traditional sectors and is now back in finance. If it's possible there, it might also be for you :)

                  Although I'm excited that design is making huge strides these days, it's sad to see that some of the depth and craft eroded from our practice. This conversation with Tom gave me hope that we'll be able to bring it back.

                  --- [ GUIDE ] -—

                  00:00 Welcome to episode 153

                  03:15 Who is Tom
                  04:15 Lightning round
                  10:00 The problem with design
                  13:45 How did we get here
                  17:45 The place of design
                  25:00 Where does change start
                  30:15 The organizational middle layer
                  33:45 What's driving Tom
                  37:30 Step in the right direction
                  40:45 Sharing your vision
                  48:00 Escaping status quo
                  53:30 Signs of success
                  55:00 Lessons learned
                  58:00 What is the sum
                  59:30 Final thoughts

                  --- [ LINKS ] ---

                  • https://www.linkedin.com/in/thomasfoster/
                  • http://sarah-drummond.com/full-stack-service-design/
                  • --- [ HOW TO EXPLAIN SERVICE DESIGN ] ---

                    Learn what it takes to get your clients, colleagues, managers, CEOs and even grandmas as excited about service design as you are.

                    https://servicedesignshow.com/free-course

                    1 hr 3 min
                  • Making AI better through service design / Carly Burton / Episode #152

                    As a consumer, you use artificial intelligence daily.  Just open any app on your phone, and the chances are that AI is somehow embedded within it.

                    The development of AI so far has been driven mainly by engineers and scientists. But have you ever wondered how service design help to shape this powerful new technology?

                    Well, it's not a question that's on my mind daily... But after the recent conversation with Carly Burton, I'm definitely more aware of the opportunity in front of us.

                    As the product lead for the AI platform at Meta, Carly is on a mission to bring more design(ers) into developing better AI.

                    In this episode, you'll learn why this is important and what might happen when we fail to do so.

                    There are still many unknowns and unanswered questions in this space. And that's precisely the space where design thrives.

                    But we shouldn't wait for the moment that design gets invited into the conversation. So it's really up to us to proactively create these bridges.

                    If you're curious how, then Carly has some inspiring examples that will get your mind going!

                    What I find exciting about the intersection between AI and design is that it's still very much uncharted territory. There really couldn't be a better time to step in and shape it with your ideas.

                    --- [ GUIDE ] -—

                    00:00 Welcome to episode 152

                    03:15 Who is Carly
                    03:45 Lightning round
                    06:45 How it started
                    08:45 Challenges & opportunities
                    11:00 What can design add
                    16:30 What's at stake
                    19:00 A common scenario
                    26:30 The bigger goals
                    32:00 Pitfalls to avoid
                    36:15 Accelerating adoption
                    39:00 Spotting the right opportunities
                    41:00 The time machine
                    44:45 Final thoughts

                    --- [ LINKS ] ---

                    • https://www.linkedin.com/in/carlymarie00006/
                    • The power of habit (book) - https://amzn.to/3n8K93h
                    • --- [ HOW TO EXPLAIN SERVICE DESIGN ] ---

                      Learn what it takes to get your clients, colleagues, managers, CEOs and even grandmas as excited about service design as you are.

                      https://servicedesignshow.com/free-course

                      48 min

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