Service Design Show

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  • How to make a system of journey maps work? / Romina Maidel / Circle #16

    Let's build a *system* of journey maps! Hold on there... do you know what you're getting yourself into?

    Journey maps are great. They help you align people, processes, and resources around your customers' needs. This leads to a more efficient organization, happier employees, and less frustrated customers.

    But as you might have experienced, journey maps also tend to spiral out of control pretty quickly. You start with a simple map that is adequate to get the job done. Then you slowly but surely start adding more data to the map. Your map, which was once a marvel of simplicity, now all of a sudden looks more like the manual of a nuclear power plant.

    So the time has come to break your giant journey map into smaller, more manageable pieces. It's time to move from a single journey map to a system of journey maps. The moment this thought goes through your mind, you've opened pandora's box.

    Many new questions arise...

    * Which parts of the system do you need to standardize?
    * Who will have the responsibility for keeping the smaller maps updated?
    * What is the right tool for the job?

    The last thing you want is to invest a lot of time and money in setting up a tool, structure, and process that, in the end, no one ends up using. Not good for the company and not great for your career either.

    In our Circle community for in-house service design professionals, many members are currently in the midst of this transition. That's why we decided to address this topic in a recent session and share the most important do's and don'ts with each other. In this episode, you're going to the highlights from that session and learn what it takes to go from a single journey map to a system of maps.

    It's clear to me that journey map, mapping, management, and ops is gearing up for the next evolution wave. So expect more content on these topics in the months ahead.

    --- [ 1. GUIDE ] ---

    00:00 Welcome to the Show

    03:15 Who is Romina
    04:30 How did we get here
    06:45 Journeys are stories
    11:00 What is the system
    14:30 Google Maps analogy
    16:45 Circle announcement
    18:00 The ideal system of maps
    22:30 Where does it break down
    24:45 How do you prioritize
    27:00 From small to medium
    28:30 Shared incentives
    31:00 How important is the tool
    34:30 Ownership
    40:00 Bottom-up vs. top down
    43:45 What is our role
    47:00 Common pitfalls
    51:30 Biggest question
    53:00 Key takeaway
    55:00 Closing thoughts

    --- [ 2. LINKS ] ---

    • https://www.linkedin.com/in/romina-maidel-053a607a/
    • --- [ 3. CIRCLE ] ---

      If you'd like to be part of these conversations as they happen rather than just getting the summary on the podcast, consider joining us in the Circle.

      www.servicedesignshow.com/circle/

      57 min
    • How failure increases your team's performance / Stephan Wiedner / Episode #164

      You need to fail... Yes, I said it. 

      Because failure is the fastest way to success when you're innovating. But it's surprisingly hard to fail. And this is a major problem. Why, you ask?

      Well, in our service design practice, failure is part of prototyping. You have an idea, you create something, you try it in the real world, learn from what happened, and based on that, improve your solution to repeat this process.

      See what I did there? You try and learn, that's the key.

      Trying something, you actually hope that it's going to work out differently than you planned so that you can learn. But when things don't work out as planned, this is often perceived as... failure. And failure isn't what most organizations embrace or celebrate. The truth is that they fail at, well yeah, failing.

      There are many reasons for this, but maybe the biggest one is a lack of psychological safety. Here's the kicker... Scientific research has proven that the best-performing teams have the highest degree of psychological safety. So how do you grow the appetite for failure in a risk-averse organization that is focused on maintaining the status quo?

      We explore that question in this week's episode with Stephan Wiedner. Stephan has done a lot of research on this topic and seen many examples of what works and what doesn't. So if you're interested in building a "fail-safe" environment in your organization, then you don't want to miss out on this conversation.

      One thing that surprised me in this episode was that you can objectively measure the levels of psychological safety. Of course, this is a great tool to show you and your CEO if you're heading in the right direction.

      Enjoy the conversation, and keep making a positive impact :)

      - Marc

      --- [ 1. GUIDE ] ---

      00:00 Welcome to episode 164

      05:30 Who is Stephan
      08:30 lightning round
      12:45 What is psychological safety
      14:30 Why does it matter
      15:15 Where is the lack coming from
      21:30 The internal voices
      23:30 A fail-safe environment
      27:00 Strategy and tactics
      31:30 Barriers to adoption
      34:15 Awareness within organizations
      38:00 Top-level management
      42:30 What are you committed to
      44:30 Measuring psychological safety
      50:00 Myths and misconceptions
      53:30 The results don't lie
      56:45 What's next
      58:30 Closing thoughts

      --- [ 2. LINKS ] ---

      • https://www.linkedin.com/in/swiedner/
      • The Fearless Organization (book) - https://amzn.to/3hdAuZE
      • The Culture Code (book) - https://amzn.to/3h7RH6M
      • The Whisper on the Night Wind (book) - https://amzn.to/3iHa5UB
      • Psychological Safety assessment - https://zarango.com/freepsi/
      • --- [ 3. CIRCLE ] ---

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        1 hr 1 min
      • The Human Side of Innovation / Mauro Porcini / Episode #163

        When you asked me to play the piano, I can assure you that nothing close to music would come out. Would we, at that point, say that the piano is broken? That would be silly, right?

        Somehow, this is the typical approach when organizations bring in design. When design doesn't fully deliver on the expected outcomes, it's the process that is declared faulty. 

        Mauro Porcini is the Chief Design Officer at PepsiCo. In his career, he has seen many design-driven initiatives fail, and some succeed. This led him on the quest to find out what the differentiator is between the two.

        Can you guess the answer? This shouldn't surprise you by now; it's people.

        So if that's the case, what kind of people does it take to make design work?

        Well, Mauro decided to write a dedicated book about this with the inspiring title: The Human Side of Innovation. The book just got published, and I invited Mauro on the Show to share the key insights with you. This is a good one!

        We explored many ideas in this conversation, but one thing that stood out for me was kindness as a competitive advantage. And you know what? It makes complete business sense!

        Enjoy the episode, and if you do consider sharing it, someone who might as well :)

        --- [ 1. GUIDE ] ---

        00:00 Welcome to episode 163

        03:30 Who is Mauro
        05:00 Lightning round
        08:15 How did it start
        12:30 The key message
        14:30 Why now
        19:00 Focus on people
        22:15 What to look for
        25:45 Reception by business
        30:30 Unicorns
        33:30 True human centricity
        40:00 How to make it bigger
        43:00 Design happiness
        47:00 Contest announcement
        48:15 Final thoughts

        --- [ 2. LINKS ] ---

        * https://www.linkedin.com/in/mauroporcini/

        * The Human Side of Innovation (book) - https://amzn.to/3Opl8h2

        * In Your Shoes (podcast) - https://open.spotify.com/show/6u90U1OT6mLdByL0TAYRW6

        * Stage Not Age (book) - https://amzn.to/3ETZNcz

        --- [ 3. CONTEST ] ---

        To enter the contest, head over to the video version of this conversation on YouTube and leave a comment there to answer the question posed in the episode.

        https://go.servicedesignshow.com/episode163

        --- [ 4. CIRCLE ] ---

        Join our private community for in-house service design professionals.

        https://servicedesignshow.com/circle

        50 min
      • Designing better futures for everyone / Lesley Ann Noel / Episode #162

        I'm sure you've heard this before... "You can't design for everyone." That's a fundamental principle in a good design process.

        In the end, design is all about making choices. And one of these choices is defining who you are designing for.

        But here's an interesting question: Can you design with a specific user in mind without excluding others? 

        This sounds a lot like a paradox, right? So why bother trying to solve it? Because if we don't, we are creating inequality and harm. 

        This isn't exclusive to but especially relevant when working with public services. You can't just always design for the "average" user or the one with the most money. So what can you do?

        Well, Lesley Ann Noel has made it her mission to help us design better futures for everyone. She has done many experiments in her role as a university professor to overcome this seeming paradox.

        And her findings are... pretty surprising, to say the least. She shares her story in this week's episode.

        After this conversation, it really resonated with me that it's okay and even beneficial to bring your whole self into the design process. Yes, including all of your biases!

        --- [ 1. GUIDE ] ---

        00:00 Welcome to episode 162

        03:15 Who is Lesley
        04:45 Lightning round
        08:00 Designing better futures
        09:45 Who are we designing for
        12:15 What does better look like
        16:45 Background story
        22:45 The unknown unknown
        27:30 Impact on the craft
        30:45 Who is open to this
        34:00 Most common question
        37:15 Bring your identity
        41:00 The mindful designer
        45:00 What makes you happy
        48:30 Lesson learned

        49:45 Closing thoughts

        --- [ 2. LINKS ] ---

        * https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesleyannnoel/

        * The Activist Academic (book) - https://amzn.to/3tfjUep

        --- [ 3. CIRCLE ] ---

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        53 min
      • Design your way out of the conversation crisis / Fred Dust/ Episode #161

        Think for a moment about a hard conversation you needed to have about a topic that really mattered to you. This could be a conversation at work or just in your private life.

        Now, what if... that conversation went down in your memory as exciting, productive, and fun? What if it almost felt like a game? Sounds too good to be true, right? 

        Well, according to Fred Dust, that's exactly what's possible and even what's necessary. According to Fred, we have almost entirely lost the ability to have hard conversations about important topics. We aren't having the conversations we need to have. And that's causing us a lot of trouble.

        Many conversations these days have become shallow, lack connection, and don't build shared understanding. But there's hope. There is a way out of this conversation crisis. We need and can design for better conversations.

        In his book Making Conversation, Fred shares why and how you do that. The book has been a huge inspiration source for me lately, so I just had to get Fred on the Show to dig a bit deeper.

        So if you also want more human, meaningful, and productive conversations, you'll definitely enjoy this conversation. Yes, that's a bit meta :)

        Conversations are a creative act, make the most of them!

        --- [ 1. GUIDE ] ---

        00:00 Welcome to episode 161

        04:15 Who is Fred
        05:45 Lightning round
        10:30 Why do we need this book
        12:30 How did we lose conversation
        14:00 Why did you write this
        16:00 What are we losing
        17:00 Who is this book for
        20:00 Key concepts
        23:30 Applying the ideas
        27:30 Setting the stage
        31:00 Active versus creative listening
        34:15 Be more human
        37:30 Common response
        39:30 Overcoming the biggest roadblocks
        42:00 Doing not talking
        46:30 Better conversations online
        50:00 Lessons learned
        51:30 You can get better
        53:00 Remember this
        54:15 Book giveaway contest
        55:30 Closing thoughts

        --- [ 2. LINKS ] ---

        * https://www.linkedin.com/in/freddust/

        * https://www.dustand.co
        * Making Conversation (book) - https://amzn.to/3N6R9Kd

        --- [ 3. CONTEST ] ---

        To enter the contest, head over to the video version of this conversation on YouTube and leave a comment there to answer the question posed in the episode.

        https://go.servicedesignshow.com/episode161

        --- [ 4. CIRCLE ] ---

        Join our private community for in-house service design professionals.

        https://servicedesignshow.com/circle

        57 min
      • When service and circular design collide / Bhavi Patel & Heydn Ericson / Circle #15

        Sustainability is the innovation frontier of the 21st century -- and if you don't get on that train, you'll be lost.

        This quote emerged during the recent conversation with Bhavi Patel and Heydn Ericson on the Show, where we explored the intersection between circular and service design. As it turns out, you, as a service design professional, are in a great position to push a more sustainable approach forward. Yes, even if it's currently not a priority in your organization.

        In this episode, you'll hear practical examples of how to do this—helping you design services that aren't just good for your customers and business but also for our planet. The conversation also reveals how you can work towards making sustainability a fundamental design principle at the start of every project, not an afterthought. Small teaser, you need to make a compelling business argument... there are plenty.

        All in all, an inspiring episode if you want to be more conscious about taking care of our environment in your own design practice. Enjoy, and especially this time, keep making a positive impact :)

        - Marc

        --- [ 1. GUIDE ] ---

        00:00 Welcome to the Show

        03:30 Who is Bhavi
        04:00 Who is Heydn
        05:00 How did we get here
        09:30 Why us
        12:45 Where are we today
        15:15 What is at stake
        18:00 Keep it simple
        22:15 Create momentum
        28:00 Sneaking it in
        30:00 How does it relate to you
        32:00 Common roadblocks
        34:30 Accelerating adoption
        38:00 Impact on services
        42:00 Future perspective
        45:30 Key takeaway
        48:45 Closing thoughts

        --- [ 2. LINKS ] ---

        • https://www.linkedin.com/in/heydn/
        • https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavinipatel/
        • https://koosservicedesign.com
        • https://www.sustainablebusinesscanvas.org
        • https://www.esgtoday.com
        • --- [ 3. CIRCLE ] ---

          If you'd like to be part of these conversations as they happen rather than just getting the summary on the podcast, consider joining us in the Circle.

          www.servicedesignshow.com/circle/


          50 min
        • Increase your influence with a simple question / Karen Baker / Episode #160

          Having a seat at the table... That's what we often talk about in the service design field. And I would say rightfully so.

          Because when you do get involved early, you have the opportunity to influence the direction of a project.

          On the flip side, you could end up making the perfect solution for the wrong problem when you get involved late. But how do you get your business stakeholder to see and appreciate the strategic value you can bring early on?

          That was the question Karen Baker and I explored in our recent conversation. Karen has a marketing background, and she looks at the challenges in our field from a slightly different perspective. As you'll hear, our conversation started by discussing design inclusivity, but...

          We eventually landed upon one simple question that brings everything together. This simple question acts like your north star, compass, and light in the dark. This question is so good that it deserves its own t-shirt.

          So want to get a seat at the table? Want to influence projects early? Want to make your design practice more inclusive? The clue to all of this is in this episode.

          Enjoy the conversation, and keep making a positive impact!

          --- [ 1. GUIDE ] ---

          00:00 Welcome to episode 160

          03:45 Who is Karen
          05:30 lightning round
          07:30 Defining design for inclusivity
          09:30 When did it start
          13:00 Where do we need it
          15:45 Including the community
          17:30 Why now
          19:45 Two examples
          24:30 Guiding principles
          27:00 Example from Lego
          29:00 How do clients respond
          32:30 What's surprising
          35:00 Accelerating adoption
          36:15 Getting leadership engaged
          38:15 The question people aren't asking
          41:00 Where is this heading
          42:45 Lesson learned
          45:30 Remember this one thing
          46:45 Final thoughts

          --- [ 2. LINKS ] ---

          - https://www.linkedin.com/in/krbaker/

          - https://www.weforum.org/press/2022/05/new-initiative-to-build-an-equitable-interoperable-and-safe-metaverse/

          - https://www.marketingdive.com/news/degree-deodorant-inclusivity-metaverse-virtual-marathon/622609/

          - https://designjustice.org

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          49 min
        • How to scale services in real life / Vinay Venkatraman / #SDGC22

          What can you expect during the Service Design Global Conference 2022? Vinay Venkatraman is one of the speakers at the conference and in this video, you'll get a sneak preview of his talk. If you want to attend the conference check out the link and discount code down below.

          [ 1. EPISODE GUIDE ]

          00:00 Welcome
          01:45 Who is Vinay
          03:00 Main topic
          04:45 Why this topic
          07:15 Key lesson
          10:45 Future perspective
          13:15 Remember one thing
          14:00 Reaching out to Vinay
          14:45 Looking forward to
          16:30 Closing thoughts

          [ 2. LINKS ]

          * https://www.linkedin.com/in/vinay85/

          [ 3. CONFERENCE ]

          Join the Service Design Global Conference on October 13 & 14, 2022.

          Use the code SDSHOW to get a **20% discount** on your ticket.

          https://hopin.com/events/service-design-global-conference-2022/registration

          18 min
        • Expanding our service design practice / Christian Bason / SDGC 2022

          What can you expect during the Service Design Global Conference 2022? In this episode, you'll hear the closing keynote speaker, Christian Bason, share a preview.  If you want to attend the conference check out the link and discount code down below.

          [ 1. EPISODE GUIDE ]

          00:00 Welcome

          01:45 Who is Christian
          03:00 The big idea
          05:45 Designing with time
          07:45 Who owns the agenda
          10:00 Design is future-oriented
          12:00 Life-centered design
          13:45 The 6 expansions
          16:30 The big question
          17:15 Looking forward to
          18:00 Closing thoughts

          [ 2. LINKS ]

          * https://www.linkedin.com/in/christianbason/

          * https://expandthefuture.com

          [ 3. CONFERENCE ]

          Join the Service Design Global Conference on October 13 & 14, 2022.

          Use the code SDSHOW to get a **20% discount** on your ticket.

          https://hopin.com/events/service-design-global-conference-2022/registration

          20 min
        • Designing humanity at work / Marine Bucher / Episode #159

          Here's something everyone knows but companies tend to ignore... It's tough to deliver a great customer experience when your employees are unhappy or unsatisfied.

          So designing the employee experience is probably just as, if even not more, important than designing the customer experience. Someone who is a strong advocate for this is Marine Bucher, who has made it her mission to design humanity at work.

          I sat down with Marine to talk about what it actually means to design the employee experience. In this episode, Marine shares some inspiring examples from her work. You'll also hear which companies are more open to investing in their employee experience and the common roadblocks that Marine has to overcome.

          If you believe that a great customer experience starts inside your organization, then I'm sure this episode will inspire you.

          --- [ 1. GUIDE ] ---

          00:00 Welcome to episode 159

          02:45 Who is Marine
          04:45 Lightning round
          07:00 Topic introduction
          09:15 Relationship to employee experience
          10:30 What does success look like
          12:00 How do you get involved
          17:30 What is at stake
          21:00 Project example
          26:30 Harvesting stories
          29:30 Justifying the value
          33:00 Who wants this
          34:30 The roadblocks
          38:30 How to get started
          40:30 Making it sustainable
          44:00 Biggest misconceptions
          45:30 Getting buy-in
          49:30 Lessons learned
          51:00 Closing thoughts

          --- [ 2. LINKS ] ---

          * https://www.linkedin.com/in/marine-bucher/

          * https://www.humankind.nz/blog/
          * https://www.excellent.io/
          * Reusabowl - https://www.reusabowl.nz/
          * Setting Boundaries (book) - https://amzn.to/3y0Gtq8
          * Designing for designers (video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0D1pr0bgEQ
          * including Assumptive persons and journey mapping - https://www.humankind.nz/documents/12/Good_Guides_-_The_Ultimate_Good_Guide_SOR86t5.pdf
          * Stakeholder Analysis - https://www.forbes.com/advisor/business/what-is-stakeholder-analysis/

          --- [ 3. CIRCLE ] ---

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          55 min

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