Shauna Ennis is a double All-Ireland winning captain. The Meath defender is also a camog, playing for the successful Na Fianna club in Meath. in 2023, the club reached All-Ireland semi-finals in Camogie and football. Despite several efforts, nine dual players had to play both games within 21 hours. One game in Louth, another 300km away. Then there's the boys, treated better than the girls.

Mary McAleese has set the target for 2027, listening to this podcast it can't come soon enough. But, it's a bumpy road ahead.