Chris and Andy talk about the British crime series 'Sherwood' and what sets apart British true crime shows from ones made in America (1:00). Then they talk about the new Marvel TV movie 'Werewolf By Night' and how it shows what's possible for Marvel television (23:30), before Andy is joined by Death Cab for Cutie frontman Ben Gibbard to talk about the band's new album 'Asphalt Meadows' (44:04).

Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald

Guest: Ben Gibbard

Producer: Kaya McMullen

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