In this week’s episode, Laura and Nico are joined by their good friend Derek Mathews for an honest conversation about hurt congregations, finding comfort and peace while navigating tense cultural moments, and learning to listen to the one voice that truly matters, the Lord’s, amid all the other loud voices of the world.

Though our nation and churches are facing division, we can find hope in Ephesians 2:11–13, which reminds us that Jesus has already torn down the dividing wall between us. No matter what you face, remember your situation is not your savior. Jesus is.

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Laura & Nico  

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