This week Jenn and Kim are talking with Joan LeMay, a New York City painter and illustrator and the co-creator of the Steely Dan book QUANTUM CRIMINALS. We're discussing art of all kinds and the challenges of balancing the commercial and the creative, showing up for ourselves, the importance of embracing change and making brave decisions as we age, persistence, beauty over 40 and a lot more.

You can find Joan and her work: https://www.joanlemay.com/

You can find Kim on her Substack: kimfrance.substack.com

You can pre-order Jenn's book: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Ambition-Monster/Jennifer-Romolini/9781668056585

To follow Jenn's beauty recs: instagram.com/jennromolinisvanity/

Concerns? Critiques? Suggestions? Just want to say "hi"? You can email us: [email protected]

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