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We start by talking about Terry's wardrobe malfunction, the latest on the Silverback Leadership program, and what we can expect from Nick and Terry at this year's Hazard Zone Conference. 

We then segway into the topics of recruitment, retention, and recognition.

This episode features Nick Brunacini,  Terry Garrison and John Vance.

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This episode was recorded at the Alan V. Brunacini Command Training Center in Phoenix,  Arizona on May 8, 2024.