02:20 - p5 and the evolution of Botto 

10:22 - The future of governance and Botto's agency 

15:00 - Navigating the new agentic landscape 

19:25 - Botto's economy 

23:50 - Responsibility, conviction and longevity 

25:51 - Simon's motivations 

31:50 - The power of the DAO 

40:20 - p5.Botto, surprises, parallels and development 

48:36 - Possible futures and directions 

51:08 - Present day impact 

58:18 - The AI Crypto meta, noise and communication 

01:05:09 - Botto's taste and the drive to create