Is a lack of great sleep ruining our lives and our running? Claire wanted to find out, so she invited sleep expert Dr Shelby Harris on the show to talk about it.

Dr. Harris is the former director of the Behavioral Sleep Medicine Program at the Sleep-Wake Disorders Center at Montefiore Medical Center. Now in private practice in White Plains, NY, she treats a wide variety of sleep disorders such as insomnia, nightmares, circadian rhythm disorders, narcolepsy, and more using evidence-based behavioral treatments. She has researched the neuropsychological effects of insomnia in older adults as well as behavioral treatments for insomnia, parasomnias, narcolepsy, and excessive daytime sleepiness.

Dr. Harris has written for the New York Times and Psychology Today and has been quoted in media such as The Huffington Post, The New Yorker, Wall Street Journal, O Magazine, and New York Magazine. She has appeared on the Today Show, World News with Diane Sawyer, Good Morning America, and more.

In other words, she knows a lot about sleep and she is a runner herself. Claire asks her how we can better decide to prioritize sleep over running and whether afternoon runners or morning runners are doing a better job with their sleep. She talks about how much sleep we really need and how to get more of it.

And if you are a runner with kids, this episode is especially for you because your little ones might just need a little more sleep too.

And just so you know, if you are listening to this at 2am because you can't sleep and you just happen to fall into dreamland before the show is over, we will take it as a compliment!