This week: Jeff talks with former counterterrorism analyst at the CIA Aki Peritz about the largest counterterrorism investigation in history that foiled a truly wild terror plot; and Jeanne talks with Anna Puglisi, Senior Fellow at Georgetown's Center for Security and Emerging Technology, and Michael German, Fellow at the Brennan Center for Justice, about the unfair and unproductive targeting by the FBI of scholars in the United States with ties to China.

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