Sober Not Mature

This week it's just us and Mike and his girlfriend are in Mexico!

We started off with Mike's reading and it talked about how we all do this sober thing the same way, but also just a little bit differently. The same path, with slight (and unique) variances.

Then some nice comments from a listener and a follower.

A short story about another podcast and proof that we don't always think before we speak.

Crazy Megan sent us some questions a few weeks ago and we finally had the chance to answer them. (You can send some too!)

We wrapped up with a little nonsense. Shocker.

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This week we have Mara! @marajsankin

Another really, really good friend from Cleveland.

We had a lot of fun with this conversation, but recovery is serious business with Mara. This is not her first run at this and she told us what happened and how she came back to sobriety.

She also taught us a new word... "sodriety." (listen and you'll hear what it means.)

The most important part of the conversation was about what she is doing now and what her life is like today.

It's good stuff and you don't want to miss this one.

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This week we have Nico Morales @nohalonm

Nico joins us from New Mexico and took the time to walk us through all of the things that brought him down.

He started using at 14 and gave up family and everything else that meant something to him.

Then he found a solution. He doesn't follow the same path as we do, but we are all headed in the same direction and we talked about the similarities, rather than the differences.

Today, he is an entrepreneur, a coach, a speaker and as he put it, he has found joy and peace.

Check him out on Instagram @nohalonm, visit his website www.NoHaloNM.com and as always...

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It's the Gratitude Episode, with your friends, Mike and Bill!

Mike did his reading and yep, it was about gratitude. The importance of saying thank you, being kind and being better than we used to be.

Then we did a recap of the sober retreat that we went to last weekend. It was fun, engaging and we highly recommend attending a retreat. It was wonderful. We did have a slight "run in" with a dude that was NOT part of our group and it's a fun story.

Bill finished the Matthew Perry audio book and did a recap on that. A few interesting observations and some possible insight into how he may have been "working" his program.

We wrapped up with a couple of things from the daily readings that we do about pride and acting sober. Was there more? Maybe.

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Yep, this week it's Mike and Bill and an early release, since we have a busy weekend ahead of us.

Mike did his reading and it was about how "we" see alcohol and drugs, how "we" become fools when we drink, what we lose when we drink and ultimately what we gain when we stick around.

Then we chatted for a few minutes about chaos. The life of chaos that we used to live and the peace and quiet that we get to enjoy now.

The Holidays are coming up, so Mike did his normal message about how to get through the Holidays sober and we had a question from a listener and a follower about time and why we only count continuous time.

And a little bit more about Matthew Perry. It was a conversation based on an article in The LA Times and for the most part, we did not agree with the mindset of the author.

There was probably more, but I guess you'll just have to listen.

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This week we have Michael! Our really, really good friend from Cleveland and one of our sober friends for over 13 years.

Michael told us a little bit about how he got here, but more importantly, why he stays here.

We talked about The Keating Center and the 3/4 house that we were all at. Then about the woman that he met, who became his wife and the mother of his 2 beautiful daughters.

There were poker nights, charity events, good times and rough times and even a trip to the all you can eat buffet at the casino (hence the episode title).

Basically, it was just 3 sober guys that have been through it together for over 13 years, having a conversation.

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It's your friends, Mike and Bill this week! And we had some things to talk about.

Mike did his reading and it was about monsters and miracles. Pretty much a then and now when it comes to folks like us, and we had a nice conversation about it.

Then on to Step 11 (Since it's the 11th month) and it deals with prayer and meditation. We both work this step every day, but maybe differently than some? It's important though, and we talked about it.

We talked about our mom and shared some nice memories. It's been a year since she passed, and it's been a good year, all in all. She lives on in our hearts and that's what matters.

And we jumped on the Matthew Perry wagon for a few minutes. Not to talk about his fame and his TV show, but the fact that he was one of us.

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Yay! Just Mike and Bill this week. Eh, it is what it is, right?

Mike did his reading and it was about responsibility. Certainly something that most of us lacked before we got sober, so it was a good conversation.

Then we inadvertently got into a conversation about sponsors and sponsees. The main thing is that "we" can't keep anyone sober, but we can offer guidance and experience.

We chatted about meetings and how we picked them early on, a podcast episode with "the metal god," nostalgia and we received some comments from followers and non followers. The good and the not so good.

And I think we got filthy at the end, which is nothing new.

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This week we have Heidi! @moonwater_motherearth

Our good friend and "bestie" from Cleveland.

She walked us through a little bit about what got her here (which was actually a guy), and then the goof stuff. What her life is like today.

From not knowing how she would do anything without a substance, to a life that is full beyond her wildest dreams.

And yes, she said the line... "It's not all strawberries and orgasms..." but she explains why she wouldn't trade this new life for anything.

Enjoy the episode. It's a good one.

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Yeah... it's Mike and Bill again this week. We recorded on Thursday this week and it's Bill's son's birthday!

Mike did his reading and it was about instincts, impulses and the dreaded idea of growing up. We have "not mature" in the name of our podcast, but even we have grown up. A little bit. It did make for a good conversation though.

Then we talked briefly about "that person" that wants to rid the world of the word alcoholic. We didn't beat that up too much, but we still have strong opinions about it.

Next was the story of the day that Bill's son was born and where part of the episode title came from. It was a beautiful day, but yeah, things got a little messy. (In a funny way)

We rounded out the episode with talk of moderation, harm reduction, a nice quote and comparing ourselves, especially in early recovery. I think there was some nonsense too.

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