Have you ever thought about how you first met your friends? You judge it by places you've been to, calculate the year, remember the people who were there, and then realize you had it all mixed up and have to start over or ask other people if they remember the outing. Time is a flat circle and what's important is living in the now and being in the moment. Spencer is a person I met in one of those outings and I never expected to still be friends because it's hard to keep up friendships when life gets in the way. But we bonded on so many things like food, baking, summer parties, birthday parties, podcasting, and having good mental health. Come listen to our conversation where we reminisce and also look to the future because it's been a journey.