In this episode of the Making Sales Social Podcast, host Stan Robinson Jr., Chief Coaching Officer at Social Sales Link, sits down with Bill Dwoinen, Chief Revenue Officer at Mural, to unpack a modern, human-centered approach to social selling, leadership, and revenue growth.

With over 20 years of experience leading high-performance go-to-market teams at companies like Salesforce, Slack, and LinkedIn, Bill shares why social selling starts with an intentional personal brand, how leaders can create mutually beneficial relationships with their networks, and why “showing up only when you need something” is the fastest way to lose trust.

The conversation also dives deep into Mural’s research on the alignment gap, why sales, marketing, product, and customer success teams so often work in silos, how misalignment drives burnout and poor customer experiences, and what collaborative, visual selling can do to fix it. Bill explains how visual collaboration creates clarity, accelerates deal cycles, and helps teams move together toward shared outcomes.