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  • #177 | Bluetooth to Space | Alex Haro, Hubble

    My guest this week is Alex Haro, co-founder and CEO of Hubble Network, which is building a low Earth orbit satellite constellation that any Bluetooth chip can talk to directly, with nothing more than a software update. We get into how a Bluetooth "whisper" can be heard from orbit, Hubble's B2B model, early traction and the path to 60 satellites, use cases from asset and package tracking to livestock, wildfire detection and even butterflies, how Hubble compares with AirTags, privacy and unauthorized tracking, and the company's next milestones after its $200 million Series C. Enjoy!

    0:00 — Cold Open

    0:23 — Intro
    1:19 — Welcome & the Elevator Pitch: Bluetooth to Space
    2:46 — Origin Story
    7:28 — Why the Name "Hubble"?
    8:14 — The Technology: How a Bluetooth Whisper Reaches Orbit
    15:30 — Just a Software Update: No New Hardware
    17:09 — A B2B Business Model
    18:32 — Early Traction & the Path to 60 Satellites
    21:43 — Early Use Cases: Asset & Package Tracking
    25:44 — Hubble vs. AirTags
    27:45 — Remote Areas, Indoors & Battery Life
    32:38 — The Use Cases Alex Is Most Excited About
    35:50 — Opportunities for Entrepreneurs
    39:31 — Livestock & Agriculture
    42:16 — Privacy & Unauthorized Tracking
    44:15 — Next Milestones, Series C & Launch
    48:08 — Science Fiction Favorites
    50:20 — Outro

    🔗 Hubble Network

    https://hubble.com/

    🔗 Alex Haro

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexanderharo

    🔗 Follow us:

    🏠Website : https://www.e2mc.space/
    🤝🏻LinkedIn : https://www.linkedin.com/company/space-business-podcast/
    🌐Socials: https://linktr.ee/spacebusinesspodcast

    🔗 Follow Raphael:

    ◇ Twitter/X - https://x.com/RaphaelE2MC
    🔷LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/raphaelroettgen
    🌐Instagram - https://instagram.com/raphael_space/

    🔗 Follow E2MC (Raphael's space VC):

    🤝🏻LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/e2mc-space/

    To Learn more about Space & the Space Economy:

    1. "To Infinity" – Raphael’s Revised Introduction to the Space Economy
    This book provides an insightful look into the space economy, its current trends, and future opportunities.
    📚 https://a.co/d/6jIQ2LO
    2. edX/EPFL's Space Economy MOOC
    This course offers a detailed understanding of the New Space Economy, covering key concepts and market developments.
    🎓 https://www.edx.org/learn/economics/ecole-polytechnique-federale-de-lausanne-new-space-economy
    3. Space Founder Newsletter
    A new newsletter with opportunities for space startup founders. Sign up here: https://forms.gle/JCUq92vERtxsuYnF8
    4. Space Business Newsletter
    📬 https://spacebusiness.substack.com/

    51 min
  • #176 | Science Fiction | Mary Robinette Kowal

    Something a little different this week: a science fiction special! My guest is Mary Robinette Kowal, the Hugo and Nebula Award-winning author of the Lady Astronaut series and The Spare Man. We talk about getting the space science right in hard sci-fi, how AI, politics and spirituality show up (or don't) in science fiction, and how talking with her cat Elsie through word buttons has changed the way she thinks about first contact with aliens. Enjoy!

     

    0:00 — Cold Open

    0:25 — Intro

    2:25 — Elevator Pitch

    3:00 — The Spare Man: A Murder Mystery in Space

    5:39 — Borrowing Story Structures from Other Genres

    9:21 — World-Building in Sci-Fi and Fantasy

    11:52 — Hard Science Fiction and Working with Experts

    16:51 — Hardest Technical Topic: Rocket Crashes

    18:59 — Real-World Space Tech vs. Fiction

    21:02 — Why Are There Still Hotshot Pilots?

    22:28 — AI in Science Fiction

    27:42 — Politics and Writing the Future

    32:18 — Utopias vs. Dystopias

    35:06 — Spirituality in Space

    37:14 — Advice for Aspiring Writers

    38:57 — First Contact and Talking to Aliens

    39:47 — Talking with Elsie the Cat

    48:26 — Favorite Science Fiction

    49:59 — Mary Robinette's Next Book


    🔗 Mary Robinette Kowal

    https://maryrobinettekowal.com/

     

    🔗 Follow us:

    🏠Website : https://www.e2mc.space/

    🤝🏻LinkedIn : https://www.linkedin.com/company/space-business-podcast/

    🌐Socials: https://linktr.ee/spacebusinesspodcast

    🔗 Follow Raphael:

    ◇ Twitter/X - https://x.com/RaphaelE2MC

    🔷LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/raphaelroettgen

    🌐Instagram - https://instagram.com/raphael_space/

    🔗 Follow E2MC (Raphael's space VC):

    🤝🏻LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/e2mc-space/

    To Learn more about Space & the Space Economy:

    1. "To Infinity" – Raphael’s Revised Introduction to the Space Economy
    2. This book provides an insightful look into the space economy, its current trends, and future opportunities.
      📚https://a.co/d/6jIQ2LO
    3. edX/EPFL's Space Economy MOOC
    4. This course offers a detailed understanding of the New Space Economy, covering key concepts and market developments.
      🎓https://www.edx.org/learn/economics/ecole-polytechnique-federale-de-lausanne-new-space-economy
    5. Space Founder Newsletter
    6. A new newsletter with opportunities for space startup founders. Sign up here: https://forms.gle/JCUq92vERtxsuYnF8
    7. Space Business Newsletter
    8. 📬 https://spacebusiness.substack.com/
      53 min
    9. #175 | Space Infrastructure | John Rood, Momentus

      Momentus is one of still relatively few space companies listed on a stock exchange.  Their offerings include satellites, hosted payload services, and last mile transportation for other people's satellites. CEO John Rood is our guest this week to tell us all about that, and also what it is like to be a publicly-listed space company. Enjoy!

      1:29 — Elevator Pitch

      2:11 — Momentus Satellites and Orbital Service Vehicles

      3:02 — Spacecraft Market Positioning

      5:40 — Market Differentiation

      9:58 — Technology Roadmap

      11:49 — Proximity Operations

      14:10 — Government vs Commercial Customers

      19:45 — Common Mistakes with Government Customers

      24:27 — Space Truck Deep Dive

      39:03 — Launch Market

      42:52 — Product Roadmap

      54:48 — Favorite Science Fiction


      🔗 Momentus

      https://momentus.space/

       

      🔗 Follow us:

      🏠Website : https://www.e2mc.space/

      🤝🏻LinkedIn : https://www.linkedin.com/company/space-business-podcast/

      🌐Socials: https://linktr.ee/spacebusinesspodcast  

      🔗 Follow Raphael:

      ◇  Twitter/X - https://x.com/RaphaelE2MC

      🔷LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/raphaelroettgen

      🌐Instagram - https://instagram.com/raphael_space/

      To Learn more about Space & the Space Economy:

      1. "To Infinity" – Raphael’s Revised Introduction to the Space Economy
      2. This book provides an insightful look into the space economy, its current trends, and future opportunities.
        📚https://a.co/d/6jIQ2LO
      3.  edX/EPFL's Space Economy MOOC
      4. This course offers a detailed understanding of the New Space Economy, covering key concepts and market developments.
        🎓https://www.edx.org/learn/economics/ecole-polytechnique-federale-de-lausanne-new-space-economy
      5. Space Founder Newsletter
      6. A new newsletter with opportunities for space startup founders. Sign up here: https://forms.gle/JCUq92vERtxsuYnF8
      7. Space Business Newsletter
      8. 📬 https://spacebusiness.substack.com/
        58 min
      9. #174 | Persistent Imaging | Mark Keremedjiev, Orbital Sentry

        We have another episode on remote sensing, and my guest is Mark Keremedjiev from a startup called Orbital Sentry. Mark tell us why persistent monitoring from geosynchronous orbit makes sense for use cases including wildfires.

         

        0:00 — Introduction

        1:11 — Welcome & Elevator Pitch

        2:13 — The LEO Data Access Problem

        4:29 — Wildfires & a Dynamic World

        6:05 — XPRIZE for Wildfire Detection

        8:29 — LEO Limitations

        11:23 — The GEO Solution

        13:40 — Costs & Improvements

        16:00 — Declining Costs

        17:20 — The Spatial Challenge

        21:09 — Temporal Resolution

        22:34 — Defense Applications

        27:09 — Data Strategy

        31:48 — Go-to-Market

        37:27 — Sensor Technology & In-Space Compute

        41:45 — 10-Year Vision & Favorite Science-Fiction

         

        🔗 Orbital Sentry

        https://www.orbitalsentry.ai/

         

        🔗 Follow us:

        🏠Website : https://www.e2mc.space/

        🤝🏻LinkedIn : https://www.linkedin.com/company/space-business-podcast/

        🌐Socials: https://linktr.ee/spacebusinesspodcast  

        🔗 Follow Raphael:

        ◇  Twitter/X - https://x.com/RaphaelE2MC

        🔷LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/raphaelroettgen

        🌐Instagram - https://instagram.com/raphael_space/

        To Learn more about Space & the Space Economy:

        1. "To Infinity" – Raphael’s Revised Introduction to the Space Economy
        2. This book provides an insightful look into the space economy, its current trends, and future opportunities.
          📚https://a.co/d/6jIQ2LO
        3.  edX/EPFL's Space Economy MOOC
        4. This course offers a detailed understanding of the New Space Economy, covering key concepts and market developments.
          🎓https://www.edx.org/learn/economics/ecole-polytechnique-federale-de-lausanne-new-space-economy
        5. Space Founder Newsletter
        6. A new newsletter with opportunities for space startup founders. Sign up here: https://forms.gle/JCUq92vERtxsuYnF8
        7. Space Business Newsletter
        8. 📬 https://spacebusiness.substack.com/
          52 min
        9. #173 | Optical Communications | Rohit Jha, Transcelestial

           Space lasers - we are talking about space lasers again -- for optical communications rather than more sinister purposes, at least for the moment. Our guest this week is Rohit Jha from Singapore-based startup Transcelestial. Optical communications are becoming an even bigger topic than they have been before, in part thanks to orbital data centers. We talk all about that, and much more, in the episode. Enjoy. 

           

          1:38 — Elevator Pitch

          4:47 — Laser History & Why Now

          8:05 — Tech Stack

          9:36 — Terrestrial Product for Telcos

          11:58 — Go-to-Market

          18:22 — Defense Product

          23:26 — Space Product

          27:52 — Commercial Space Strategy

          36:09 — Supply Chain

          42:35 — Orbital Data Centers

          49:29 — Singapore

          50:57 — Future Plans

          55:05 — Science-Fiction


          🔗 Transcelestial
          https://transcelestial.com/

           

          🔗 Follow us:

          🏠Website : https://www.e2mc.space/

          🤝🏻LinkedIn : https://www.linkedin.com/company/space-business-podcast/

          🌐Socials: https://linktr.ee/spacebusinesspodcast  

          🔗 Follow Raphael:

          ◇  Twitter/X - https://x.com/RaphaelE2MC

          🔷LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/raphaelroettgen

          🌐Instagram - https://instagram.com/raphael_space/

          To Learn more about Space & the Space Economy:

          1. "To Infinity" – Raphael’s Revised Introduction to the Space Economy
          2. This book provides an insightful look into the space economy, its current trends, and future opportunities.
            📚https://a.co/d/6jIQ2LO
          3.  edX/EPFL's Space Economy MOOC
          4. This course offers a detailed understanding of the New Space Economy, covering key concepts and market developments.
            🎓https://www.edx.org/learn/economics/ecole-polytechnique-federale-de-lausanne-new-space-economy
          5. Space Founder Newsletter
          6. A new newsletter with opportunities for space startup founders. Sign up here: https://forms.gle/JCUq92vERtxsuYnF8
          7. Space Business Newsletter
          8. 📬 https://spacebusiness.substack.com/
            58 min
          9. #172 | Space Research | Lucie Low, Axiom Space

            Lucie Low is the Chief Science Officer of Axiom Space, a prominent space company developing its own space station and conducting private astronaut missions, among other activities. Lucie and I talk about what interesting use cases are for in-space research and manufacturing, what remains to be done to make it a large-scale reality, and other related topics. Enjoy!


            🔗 Axiom Space

            https://www.axiomspace.com/

             

            0:00 — Intro

            1:15 — Lucie's Background

            2:57 — What Does a CSO Do?

            4:03 — Why Research in Space?

            7:33 — Favorite Use Cases

            8:10 — Neuroscience Use Cases

            10:38 — R&D vs. Manufacturing

            14:30 — Microgravity Applications

            17:11 — Key Remaining Challenges

            20:26 — Autonomous Research vs. Humans

            24:16 — Challenging Use Cases

            33:00 — Keytruda

            35:27 — Inbound vs. Outbound Customers

            36:20 — Unlimited Funding Use Case

            41:05 — How Researchers Can Work with Axiom Space

            44:36 — Funding Sources

            47:19 — Expanding to Europe

            49:13 — Favorite Sci-Fi

            🔗 Follow us:

            🏠Website : https://www.e2mc.space/

            🤝🏻LinkedIn : https://www.linkedin.com/company/space-business-podcast/

            🌐Socials: https://linktr.ee/spacebusinesspodcast  

            🔗 Follow Raphael:

            ◇  Twitter/X - https://x.com/RaphaelE2MC

            🔷LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/raphaelroettgen

            🌐Instagram - https://instagram.com/raphael_space/

            To Learn more about Space & the Space Economy:

            1. "To Infinity" – Raphael’s Revised Introduction to the Space Economy
            2. This book provides an insightful look into the space economy, its current trends, and future opportunities.
              📚https://a.co/d/6jIQ2LO
            3.  edX/EPFL's Space Economy MOOC
            4. This course offers a detailed understanding of the New Space Economy, covering key concepts and market developments.
              🎓https://www.edx.org/learn/economics/ecole-polytechnique-federale-de-lausanne-new-space-economy
            5. Space Founder Newsletter
            6. A new newsletter with opportunities for space startup founders. Sign up here: https://forms.gle/JCUq92vERtxsuYnF8
            7. Space Business Newsletter
            8. 📬 https://spacebusiness.substack.com/
              53 min
            9. #171 | An Exchange for the Space Sector | Tejpaul Bhatia, Nebex

               Nebex is a new exchange for the global space sector. It just came out of stealth recently, but it already raised a $30 million seed round led by Google Ventures. The co-founder and CEO, Tejpaul Bhatia, is our guest for this episode. Enjoy.   

              TIMESTAMPS:

              0:00 — Podcast Intro

              1:45 — Elevator Pitch

              3:01 — The Problem: Cross-Border Space Friction

              15:06 — Real-World Examples incl. Axiom

              34:04 — The Product: Exchange vs. Marketplace

              37:40 — Business Model

              50:41 — Regulation, Market Making

              55:48 — Product Timeline & Alpha Launch

              55:59 — Onboarding Space Founders

              1:01:13 — What Else Is Exciting in Space?

              1:03:57 — Nebex Name Origin

              1:06:45 — Favorite Science-Fiction

               

              🔗 Nebex

              🏠Website:

              https://www.nebex.com/

               

              🔗 Follow us:

              🏠Website : https://www.e2mc.space/

              🤝🏻LinkedIn : https://www.linkedin.com/company/space-business-podcast/

              🌐Socials: https://linktr.ee/spacebusinesspodcast  

               

              🔗 Follow Raphael:

              ◇  Twitter/X - https://x.com/RaphaelE2MC

              🔷LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/raphaelroettgen

              🌐Instagram - https://instagram.com/raphael_space/

               

              To Learn more about Space & the Space Economy:

              1. "To Infinity" – Raphael’s Revised Introduction to the Space Economy
              2. This book provides an insightful look into the space economy, its current trends, and future opportunities.
                📚https://a.co/d/6jIQ2LO
              3.  edX/EPFL's Space Economy MOOC
              4. This course offers a detailed understanding of the New Space Economy, covering key concepts and market developments.
                🎓https://www.edx.org/learn/economics/ecole-polytechnique-federale-de-lausanne-new-space-economy
              5. Space Founder Newsletter
              6. A new newsletter with opportunities for space startup founders. Sign up here: https://forms.gle/JCUq92vERtxsuYnF8
              7. Space Business Newsletter
              8. 📬 https://spacebusiness.substack.com/
                1 hr 10 min
              9. #170 | Reusable Satellites | Brian Taylor, Lux Aeterna
                Reusable satellites are our topic this week. Why they make sense, what the economics are, and other related questions. Our guest is Brian Taylor, CEO & founder of Lux Aeterna, a Colorado-based startup working on exactly this. Enjoy!
                 

                TIMESTAMPS:

                0:00 — Podcast Intro

                1:01 — Elevator Pitch

                3:18 — Brian's Background & Origin Story

                8:43 — The Satellite: Design & Technology

                13:57 — Heat Shield & Unique Subsystems

                15:57 — Reusability & Refurbishment

                22:36 — Market: Use Cases for Reusable Satellites

                20:53 — Regulatory Environment

                29:41 — Business Model: Space as a Service

                35:00 — First Mission & Roadmap

                37:28 — Lessons from SpaceX, Kuiper & Loft

                40:03 — Founder vs. Employee Mindset

                41:20 — What's Exciting in Space + Sci-Fi Picks


                🔗 Lux Aeterna

                🏠Website:

                https://www.luxaeterna.com/

                 

                🔗 Follow us:

                🏠Website : https://www.e2mc.space/

                🤝🏻LinkedIn : https://www.linkedin.com/company/space-business-podcast/

                🌐Socials: https://linktr.ee/spacebusinesspodcast  

                 

                🔗 Follow Raphael:

                ◇  Twitter/X - https://x.com/RaphaelE2MC

                🔷LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/raphaelroettgen

                🌐Instagram - https://instagram.com/raphael_space/

                 

                To Learn more about Space & the Space Economy:

                1. "To Infinity" – Raphael’s Revised Introduction to the Space Economy
                2. This book provides an insightful look into the space economy, its current trends, and future opportunities.
                  📚 https://a.co/d/6jIQ2LO
                3.  edX/EPFL's Space Economy MOOC
                4. This course offers a detailed understanding of the New Space Economy, covering key concepts and market developments.
                  🎓 https://www.edx.org/course/new-space-
                5. Space Founder Newsletter
                6. A new newsletter with opportunities for space startup founders. Sign up here: https://forms.gle/JCUq92vERtxsuYnF8
                7. Space Business Newsletter
                8. 📬 https://spacebusiness.substack.com/
                  45 min
                9. #169 | Next-Gen Satellite Navigation| Brian Manning, Xona Space Systems

                  This week we’re talking about satellite navigation. All of us are using it every day mostly in its best-known form, GPS. Now there is a startup company trying to make satellite navigation much better. What that means, and how they’re doing it are among the topics I’m discussing with Brian Manning, CEO and co-founder of Xona Space Systems. Enjoy!


                  🕰️ Timestamps: 

                  0:00 Podcast Intro
                  1:20 – Elevator Pitch
                  4:54 – Terminology: GPS, GNSS, PNT
                  6:31 – Why GNSS is important
                  8:39 – GNSS on your phone
                  10:02 – GPS Accuracy
                  15:17 – Jamming, Spoofing, and Baby Monitors
                  21:15 – Encryption
                  21:54 – GPS Augmentation Services
                  30:15 – Orbit Architecture
                  35:23 – Jamming in Space
                  39:06 – Indoor GNSS
                  40:39 – Xona's 3 Pillars: Precision, Power, Protection (PPP)
                  41:59 – Go-to-Market
                  45:42 – Use cases unlocked by centimeter-level accuracy
                  50:55 – Company Milestones
                  53:19 – Bonus: PNT on the Moon
                  54:15 – Science-Fiction
                   

                  🔗 XONA SPACE SYSTEMS

                  🏠Website:

                  https://www.xonaspace.com/
                   

                  🔗 Follow us:

                  🏠Website : https://www.e2mc.space/

                  🤝🏻LinkedIn : https://www.linkedin.com/company/space-business-podcast/

                  🌐Socials: https://linktr.ee/spacebusinesspodcast  

                   

                  🔗 Follow Raphael:

                  ◇  Twitter/X - https://x.com/RaphaelE2MC

                  🔷LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/raphaelroettgen

                  🌐Instagram - https://instagram.com/raphael_space/

                   

                  To Learn more about Space & the Space Economy:

                  1. "To Infinity" – Raphael’s Revised Introduction to the Space Economy
                  2. This book provides an insightful look into the space economy, its current trends, and future opportunities.
                    📚 https://a.co/d/6jIQ2LO
                  3.  edX/EPFL's Space Economy MOOC
                  4. This course offers a detailed understanding of the New Space Economy, covering key concepts and market developments.
                    🎓 https://www.edx.org/course/new-space-
                  5. Space Founder Newsletter
                  6. A new newsletter with opportunities for space startup founders. Sign up here: https://forms.gle/JCUq92vERtxsuYnF8
                  7. Space Business Newsletter
                  8. 📬 https://spacebusiness.substack.com/
                    56 min
                  9. #168 | Space-based Solar Power | Marc Berte, Overview Energy

                    Space-based solar power – it’s a hot and electrifying topic again (sorry for the pun!) What is the state of the art? What are the commercial use cases? How do the economics look? We’ll dive into this and more with our guest Marc Berte, CEO & Founder of Overview Energy. Enjoy!

                    🕰️ Timestamps: 

                    0:00 Podcast Intro
                    01:07 Elevator Pitch
                    02:25 Dr. Evil to Reality
                    03:54 Why Space Solar Now
                    04:26 Mark’s Background
                    06:08 SBSP History
                    14:40 System Architecture and Safety
                    22:13 Solar Cells and Economics
                    25:28 Satellite Lifetime Design
                    28:32 More on Solar Cells
                    31:20 Integration and Unknowns
                    33:19 Manufacturing at Scale
                    34:32 Supply Chain Bottlenecks
                    37:02 Electricity Market Segments and Pricing
                    44:27 Meta Data Center Deal
                    47:08 New Contract Model
                    51:27 Roadmap and Milestones
                    53:14 Other Space Opportunities
                    56:22 Science-Fiction
                    57:43 Dyson Sphere
                     

                    🔗 OVERVIEW ENERGY

                    🏠Website:

                    https://www.overviewenergy.com/
                     

                    🔗 Follow us:

                    🏠Website : https://www.e2mc.space/

                    🤝🏻LinkedIn : https://www.linkedin.com/company/space-business-podcast/

                    🌐Socials: https://linktr.ee/spacebusinesspodcast  

                     

                    🔗 Follow Raphael:

                    ◇  Twitter/X - https://x.com/RaphaelE2MC

                    🔷LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/raphaelroettgen

                    🌐Instagram - https://instagram.com/raphael_space/

                     

                    To Learn more about Space & the Space Economy:

                    1. "To Infinity" – Raphael’s Revised Introduction to the Space Economy
                    2. This book provides an insightful look into the space economy, its current trends, and future opportunities.
                      📚 https://a.co/d/6jIQ2LO
                    3.  edX/EPFL's Space Economy MOOC
                    4. This course offers a detailed understanding of the New Space Economy, covering key concepts and market developments.
                      🎓 https://www.edx.org/course/new-space-
                    5. Space Founder Newsletter
                    6. A new newsletter with opportunities for space startup founders. Sign up here: https://forms.gle/JCUq92vERtxsuYnF8
                    7. Space Business Newsletter
                    8. 📬 https://spacebusiness.substack.com/
                      1 hr 2 min

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