Shane Whaley and author I.S. Berry (The Peacock and the Sparrow) welcome spy thriller author Dan Fesperman to talk about his latest novel, Pariah. What happens when a disgraced stand-up comedian becomes a CIA asset in a fictional Eastern European country? Listen/Watch On.

Topics covered include:

• The real-world politics that inspired Pariah
• How cancel culture shapes protagonist Hal Knight
• Building a believable fictional Eastern/Central European setting (Bolrovia!)
• Why did Dan Fesperman choose to create a fictional country rather than base Pariah in a real country?
• Humour in serious spy fiction
• Do spy novels need to have a geopolitical canvas?
• Food in spy novels. Chimney cake anyone?

• Why Dan Fesperman's audiobook producer stopped him from singing one of the songs referenced in Pariah.

Dan Fesperman also reveals that his next novel will feature Winter Work's Emil Grimm; he also shares his thoughts on what makes a spy novel and the guests give a shoutout to the unsung real-life spies.

Dan Fesperman's Pariah is perfect for fans of le Carré, McCloskey, Paul Vidich and for readers craving spy fiction with depth, nuance and laughs.

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