Holy Shit Shira B. Katz is here! … and she’s causing trouble! … and she starts a wonderful conversation with Ginger about mindfulness! ….and she asks what we’ve been doing with our lives and we update her with an episode almost entirely about “our business” which included the introduction of the term relationship anarchy.

It was a pleasure and we hope it happens again. J

…also “dumping with Dylan” may become a thing now. And I guess “Just the Tip with Dylan Thomas”.

Maybe.

Whatever.

We reference Headspace (the website that apparently treats your head right) and Dr. Dan Siegel’s book Mindsight.