00:18 - Welcome Brian Droitcour and sssluke

02:50 - Burnout and returning online

04:50 - Brian and the origins of Outland

07:54 - A mismatch in value systems and the importance of critique 

10:03 - Outland's relaunch as a nonprofit

12:41 - How important are NFTs to digital art 

15:46 - Why try to bridge different art worlds 

21:11 - New Bad Image

22:27 - Evil Biscuit and the avant scene 

25:51 - Trait Maxing, Mythmaking and the birth of new movements

29:10 - The meaning of New Bad Image

31:39 - Brian on schizocollage  

35:37 - Rejecting the good image

39:04 - Curating a group show

42:00 - Emergent online culture

46:54 - Why subculture matters 

50:27 - Where credibility comes from today

54:30 - Art as collectibles 

56:29 - After the Art World and Drifella III

58:41 - The goal of New Bad Image 

01:01:45 - Following a curatorial path 

01:03:14 - Collaborating with Andreas Gysin 

01:05:30 - The state of the space

sssluke: https://x.com/sssluke1

Brian Droitcour: https://x.com/briandroitcour

After the Art World: https://outlandart.substack.com/p/after-the-art-world-part-1 

Brian's thread on schizocollage: https://x.com/briandroitcour/status/1932829548720369949