The NAESP Principal Podcast

Standing Proud in Our Success


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Successful leaders are generally given license to be proud of their work, but all too often women are made to feel either that they have achieved less or that they should be quiet about their achievements. Center for Women in Leadership fellows Jessica Gomez and Andrea Thompson sit down with principal Shanessa Fenner to talk about how and why this problem exists. In this episode we discuss:

  • How stereotypes and mindsets diminish women's voices
  • Whether self-confidence is truly at issue
  • The importance of a supportive network
  • Not feeling guilty for taking pride in success
  • Dr. Shanessa Fenner is a writer, has appeared on radio and television, and serves as the proud principal of William T. Brown Elementary School in Spring Lake, North Carolina.

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