Toni Collier has a discussion with Ruth Chou Simons about how sometimes we stay in our pain because we want to strive to numb the pain instead of striving to actually heal. The truth is that some of the greatest pain comes from our experience of rejection and trying to seek approval from others. It’s because we’re striving for world acceptance when we really should just be surrendered at the feet of Jesus. If you’re in a painful season right now and you’re trying to strive your way out of it, this episode is for you.

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