Stephan Sterns talks about what he’ll do when he’s released — start a trust fund, get a job, rebuild. But here’s the catch: he’s facing the death penalty in the murder of Madeline Soto.

This call is surreal, heart-wrenching, and filled with impossible hope. His parents play along, not because they believe, but because they love.

This conversation reveals the fragile fantasy of future in the face of irreversible loss — and the staggering emotional toll of the Madeline Soto murder case.

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