Opening statements are done. The Kouri Richins murder trial is underway in Summit County. Criminal defense attorney Bob Motta joins us live to break down what we learned from week one and where this five-week trial is heading.

Prosecutors painted Kouri as a calculated killer who poisoned her husband Eric with fentanyl for nearly $2 million in life insurance money. The defense promised to show the case is built on compromised witnesses and circumstantial evidence. Bob analyzes where those competing narratives will collide—and where the defense has the best opportunity to create doubt.

The prosecution's key witness is Carmen Lauber—the housekeeper who claims she sold Kouri fentanyl. She's been granted immunity. Her supplier, Robert Crozier, has recanted and now says whatever he sold wasn't fentanyl. No pills were ever recovered or tested. Bob explains how a defense attorney would approach cross-examining a witness whose credibility has already been undermined.

The 15-minute gap before Kouri called 911 is central to the state's theory. Her phone was unlocked six times during those minutes. First responders noted Eric "seemed like he had been dead a while." Bob walks through how the defense will try to explain that gap—and whether the explanation holds up.

Two of Eric's friends will testify that eighteen days before his death, he called them and said "I think my wife tried to poison me." That statement is devastating for the defense. Bob explains the best strategy for neutralizing secondhand testimony.

With over 1,000 exhibits and a hard deadline from Judge Mrazik, the defense says this case won't finish on time. Bob explains whether timeline pressure helps or hurts the prosecution.

Join us live for real-time trial analysis from a defense attorney who knows how cases are won and lost.

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Day 24 of the Nancy Guthrie investigation brought two major developments that demand real-time analysis—and criminal defense attorney Bob Motta is joining us live to break it all down.

Savannah Guthrie posted an emotional video announcing a $1 million family reward for her mother's "recovery." Not return. Recovery. That language shift tells you where the family's head is at after more than three weeks of silence from whoever took Nancy Guthrie from her Tucson home.

But the bigger news dropped from law enforcement sources: the FBI's doorbell camera images weren't all from February 1st. At least one—the image without the backpack—was captured on an earlier date. Sources suggest the suspect visited the property, encountered the camera, retreated, and returned with a plan to cover it with desert weeds.

What does this mean for the investigation? What does it mean for eventual prosecution? And why is the Pima County Sheriff's Department publicly disputing information that law enforcement sources keep confirming to reporters?

Bob Motta brings his criminal defense experience to these questions live. We'll discuss what prior surveillance visits mean for establishing premeditation, how prosecutors build cases from fragmented physical evidence, and why the DNA testing delays could actually work in law enforcement's favor if they're pursuing genetic genealogy.

We're also taking your questions and comments in real time. The tip line is overwhelmed with theories and well-wishes—the FBI had to publicly ask people to stop calling with speculation. But legitimate questions deserve answers, and that's what we're here for.

Join us live as this case enters its fourth week with more questions than answers.

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Day twenty-two. Four hundred investigators. Zero arrests. And ABC News reports the case may soon scale back to a long-term task force.

The family has been briefed. The DNA is still unidentified. The perpetrator — if local — is watching themselves become the most wanted person in America while investigators canvass gun shops, process genetic genealogy, and work through Walmart purchase records. And investigators aren't ruling out that multiple people were involved.

Robin Dreeke ran the FBI's Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program for years. He understands what happens inside an investigation when it hits a wall, what sustained pressure does to someone trying to hide what they've done, and what makes people with dangerous knowledge finally talk.

This interview covers every psychological angle: the investigation running out of oxygen, the suspect watching the walls close in, the accomplice question, and the psychology of the break. Someone in this perpetrator's life knows something is wrong. Over two hundred thousand dollars in rewards. What makes them act?

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Investigators have publicly stated they're not ruling out that more than one person was involved. The evidence is contradictory: sophisticated reconnaissance but no extraction plan, forensic awareness at the door but sloppiness on the exit, ransom notes with insider details but no way to collect.

If there was a second person — a driver, a lookout, someone who helped but didn't enter the home — they're watching this investigation unfold with different psychological stakes than the person who actually took Nancy.

Robin Dreeke spent his FBI career understanding what makes people talk. He ran the Bureau's Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program, building rapport with assets who had every reason to stay silent. In this interview, he examines what the evidence suggests about multiple actors — and what it takes for someone with knowledge of a crime to finally come forward.

The reward is over two hundred thousand dollars. Genetic genealogy is processing DNA. There are people in this perpetrator's life who've noticed the stress. What makes suspicion turn into action? What does a real tip sound like? And how does this case actually get solved?

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Twenty-two days. The doorbell footage has been broadcast everywhere. The FBI is canvassing gun shops with photos. Walmart has turned over backpack purchase records. Genetic genealogy is processing DNA. CeCe Moore says if she were the kidnapper, she'd be "extremely concerned."

If this person is local — and the January reconnaissance suggests they are — they're watching themselves become the most wanted person in America while trying to live a normal life.

Robin Dreeke ran the FBI's Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program. His career was built on understanding how people behave under pressure. In this interview, he breaks down what's happening psychologically inside the head of whoever did this — the sustained stress of national exposure, the behavioral mistakes pressure forces, and the tells someone in this position might be exhibiting to the people around them.

The forensic awareness at the door suggests planning. The dropped glove two miles out suggests panic. What happens when someone realizes they're in over their head?

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Four hundred investigators. Twenty-two days. Zero arrests. And ABC News is now reporting the case may soon scale back to a long-term task force.

The family has been briefed that leads aren't panning out. The DNA is still unidentified. No additional video has been recovered. No vehicle has been connected to the abduction. Former FBI hostage negotiator Rich Frankel told ABC, "You have to at one point move on to a long-term sustainable level of manpower. It is not a closed case."

But what does that transition actually look like inside an investigation? What happens psychologically to teams that have been running 24/7 for three weeks when "sustainable" starts replacing "urgent"?

Robin Dreeke spent twenty-one years in FBI counterintelligence running the Bureau's Behavioral Analysis Program. He's managed operations under sustained pressure with no wins. In this interview, he breaks down what's happening inside this case right now — the institutional psychology, the command confusion, the effect of high-profile detentions that produced nothing, and the single most important thing investigators need to protect as this case enters a new phase.

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Retired FBI Special Agent Jennifer Coffindaffer delivers her most detailed assessment of the Nancy Guthrie investigation in a three-part conversation covering the forensic evidence, the jurisdiction fight, and whether three weeks of operational activity is translating into progress.

On evidence: the DNA is unresolved, the glove may not be case-related, genetic genealogy needs material that may be compromised, and Google says no more camera footage is coming. On power: the sheriff's own deputies broke ranks publicly, the FBI wants control, and the family holds the key to changing the command structure. On results: every major move has ended without charges, nothing recovered has been confirmed as connected to whoever took Nancy, and Nanos says she's alive while nineteen days of silence suggest otherwise.

Coffindaffer answers the questions this case needs answered — with nothing assumed and nothing sugarcoated.

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Nineteen days. Three detentions, all released. SWAT operations that made headlines and produced nothing. Over 50,000 tips and no suspect. Retired FBI Special Agent Jennifer Coffindaffer joins True Crime Today to assess what the Nancy Guthrie investigation actually has versus what the public has been led to believe.

Coffindaffer separates confirmed evidence from assumptions — the ransom notes, the glove, the tip volume, the detentions. None of it has been publicly connected to whoever took Nancy. She evaluates Nanos's statement that he believes Nancy is alive against the operational reality of three weeks without proof of life or confirmed communication.

The interview addresses the pre-abduction surveillance footage request, the usefulness of Google Trends data, and Coffindaffer's honest read on whether this investigation is building toward something or has stalled.

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Two major case developments this week. FBI behavioral analyst Robin Dreeke provides analysis on both.

Kouri Richins' murder trial opens February 23rd in Summit County, Utah. Prosecutors have laid out years of alleged preparation: nearly $2 million in insurance policies taken out without Eric's knowledge, financial fraud discovered in 2020, and a compressed timeline in February 2022 between fentanyl procurement and his death. Robin applies his behavioral frameworks to ask what jury members should watch for—and examines Kouri's post-death behavior from the 911 call to the children's book tour to the "Walk the Dog" letter found in her cell.

Nancy Guthrie remains missing while the FBI intensifies its investigation. This week: eighteen to twenty-four names with photographs shown to a Tucson gun shop owner. FBI outreach to Mexican federal law enforcement. Investigators canvassing shops to match a distinctive holster. Tech companies attempting to recover overwritten Nest footage. And CeCe Moore's assessment that the mixed DNA is "extremely hopeful" for genetic genealogy.

Robin reads the investigative tempo across both cases. For Richins: What does sustained deception followed by public performance reveal about psychology? What separates genuine emotion from performance in a five-week trial? For Guthrie: What does FBI international outreach signal? What do the physical evidence details—ring visible through glove, unusual holster position, dropped glove—reveal about someone who showed forensic awareness?

One case entering trial. One case building toward identification. The behavioral patterns and evidence that connect them.

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Multiple FBI sources say the bureau wants control of the Nancy Guthrie investigation. The sheriff's own deputy union called it an ego case. Investigators on the ground told reporters they don't know who's in charge. And legally, the FBI can't take over without the Guthrie family's formal request.

Retired FBI Special Agent Jennifer Coffindaffer joins True Crime Today to explain how jurisdiction works in a case like this — what the family can actually do, what it changes operationally, and why the current power structure may be working against finding Nancy. Coffindaffer addresses the public split between FBI sources calling evidence handling decisions "dumb" and "insane" and Nanos insisting everything is running smoothly.

The conversation covers the A&E series timing, what it means when a deputy union breaks ranks publicly, and whether three weeks of command ambiguity has given whoever took Nancy a window that shouldn't exist.

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