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Daniel Shaw, M.S., CCC-SLP, joins host Sara MacIntyre, M.A., CCC-SLP, for a special mini-series introducing listeners to a range of counseling approaches and their potential applications within stuttering therapy. Throughout the series, Daniel shares his extensive knowledge and go-to resources, offering a foundational overview of each approach, practical examples of how they can be integrated into stuttering therapy, and recommendations for those looking to dive deeper into further learning. This third and final episode of the three-part series focuses on Dialectical Behavioral Therapy (DBT). Check out the previous two episodes of the series for more on SFBT and Motivational Interviewing!

Resources:

• Building a Life Worth Living
• Dialectical Behavioral Therapy Manual
• Dialectical Behavioral Therapy Skills: 101 Mindfulness Exercises for Children and Adolescents

Bio: Daniel Shaw, M.S., CCC-SLP, is a speech-language therapist at the Vanderbilt Bill Wilkerson Center in Nashville, TN, where he serves children, teens, and adults who stutter (along with their families). He serves as the stuttering team lead and is the associate director of Camp TALKS, a summer day-camp for children who stutter. His other passion involves young children with autism. He is a classroom lead in the Preschool For Children With Autism and is member of the autism diagnostic team. He loves to read, write, teach, and expose his children to the arts.

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Daniel Shaw, M.S., CCC-SLP, joins host Sara MacIntyre, M.A., CCC-SLP, for a special mini-series introducing listeners to a range of counseling approaches and their potential applications within stuttering therapy. Throughout the series, Daniel shares his extensive knowledge and go-to resources, offering a foundational overview of each approach, practical examples of how they can be integrated into stuttering therapy, and recommendations for those looking to dive deeper into further learning. This second episode of the three-part series focuses on Motivational Interviewing. Tune in for one more episode this month, releasing next Tuesday!

Resources:

• Motivational Interviewing in Healthcare
• Motivational Interviewing in the Schools
• Motivational Interviewing: Helping People Change
• On Second Thought: How Ambivalence Shapes Your Life

Bio: Daniel Shaw, M.S., CCC-SLP, is a speech-language therapist at the Vanderbilt Bill Wilkerson Center in Nashville, TN, where he serves children, teens, and adults who stutter (along with their families). He serves as the stuttering team lead and is the associate director of Camp TALKS, a summer day-camp for children who stutter. His other passion involves young children with autism. He is a classroom lead in the Preschool For Children With Autism and is member of the autism diagnostic team. He loves to read, write, teach, and expose his children to the arts.

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Daniel Shaw, M.S., CCC-SLP, joins host Sara MacIntyre, M.A., CCC-SLP, for a special mini-series introducing listeners to a range of counseling approaches and their potential applications within stuttering therapy. Throughout the series, Daniel shares his extensive knowledge and go-to resources, offering a foundational overview of each approach, practical examples of how they can be integrated into stuttering therapy, and recommendations for those looking to dive deeper into further learning. The series begins with Solution Focused Brief Therapy (SFBT). Tune in for two more episodes this month, releasing on the next two Tuesdays!

Resources mentioned:

• Tools for Success- A Solution Focused Brief Therapy Taster
• Solution Focused Brief Therapy with Children and young People Who Stammer and their Parents: A Practical Guide from the Michael Palin Centre
• Solution Focused Brief Therapy and Clinical Supervision
• Previous Podcast Episodes with SFBT components
• The Focus on Solutions
• 1001 Solution Focused Questions
• Using Emotions in Solution Focused Therapy

Bio: Daniel Shaw, M.S., CCC-SLP, is a speech-language therapist at the Vanderbilt Bill Wilkerson Center in Nashville, TN, where he serves children, teens, and adults who stutter (along with their families). He serves as the stuttering team lead and is the associate director of Camp TALKS, a summer day-camp for children who stutter. His other passion involves young children with autism. He is a classroom lead in the Preschool For Children With Autism and is member of the autism diagnostic team. He loves to read, write, teach, and expose his children to the arts.

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Stuttering is so much more than what you hear—it’s what’s felt, what’s hidden, what’s explored, and what’s learned along the way. In this special episode, we share a collection of short, personal stories from people who stutter.

Each storyteller offers one meaningful moment within their stuttering journey—an experience, turning point, realization, or reflection that helped shape their relationship with stuttering.

These anonymous and authentic stories reveal the depth, complexity, and resilience of living with stuttering—both on the surface and beneath it.

We hope this episode encourages you to reflect on your own journey and reminds you that every story shared helps build awareness, connection, and understanding.

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Dr. Kathleen Scaler Scott, Ph.D., CCC-SLP, BCS-SCF, joins host Sara MacIntyre, M.A., CCC-SLP, for an in-depth discussion on the assessment and treatment of cluttering. In this episode, Dr. Scaler Scott breaks down the differential diagnosis process using the LCD definition, provides a comprehensive overview of assessment and treatment, and shares clinical examples and key considerations along the way. Packed with practical insights, this episode will leave listeners feeling more confident and ready to apply what they've learned immediately.

Tip: For additional background, check out a Season 6 episode "All Things Cluttering with Dr. Kathleen Scaler Scott" 

Resources:

• 'All Things Cluttering with Dr. Kathleen Scaler Scott,' Stuttering Foundation Podcast Episode [referenced in episode]
• 'The Cluttering Experience' Rutger Wilhelm Stuttering Foundation Podcast Episode
• 'Cluttering: Expanding Evaluation & Treatment' Virtual Learning Session
• 'Cluttering: Shared Experiences' Virtual Learning Session
• Cluttering Conversations Podcast
• ASHA Leader Article: Debunking Myths About Cluttering

Kathleen Scaler Scott, Ph.D., CCC-SLP, BCS-SCF, is a practicing speech-language pathologist, Board Certified Specialist in Stuttering, Cluttering and Fluency, and Professor of Speech-Language Pathology at Misericordia University. She has been a practicing clinician for 30 years in hospital, school, and private practice settings. Dr. Scaler Scott’s research interests are largely in cluttering, atypical disfluency, and child language and literacy disorders. She has spoken nationally and internationally and authored peer reviewed articles, book chapters and books on the topic of fluency, literacy and pragmatic challenges. She was the first Coordinator of the International Cluttering Association, and is the recipient of the 2018 Deso Weiss Award for Excellence in the Field of Cluttering, and the 2018 Professional of the Year award from the National Stuttering Association. In 2020, Dr. Scaler Scott received the Judge Max and Tillie Rosenn Excellence in Teaching Award from Misericordia University. In 2022, she became a Fellow of the American Speech-Language-Hearing Association.She is co-editor of Cluttering: A Handbook of Research, Intervention, and Education, co-author of Managing Cluttering: A Comprehensive Guidebook of Activities, author of Fluency Plus: Managing Fluency Disorders in Individuals with Multiple Diagnoses and co-author of the recently released Second Edition of the Source for Stuttering and Cluttering. She is also co-founder and co-host of the podcast Cluttering Conversations, a free podcast available on SoundCloud. 

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Researchers from the Delaware Stuttering Project at the University of Delaware—Dr. Ho Ming Chow, Associate Professor and principal investigator, Sayan Nanda, Ph.D. student, and Dr. Nicole Guarino, research scientist—join host Sara MacIntyre, M.A., CCC-SLP, to discuss their recent article, "Atypical gut microbiota composition in a mouse model of developmental stuttering," published in Scientific Reports (Nature Portfolio). Building upon previous genetic and mouse model research by Dr. Dennis Drayna and colleagues at the NIH [previous podcast episode with Dr. Drayna linked below for background], their study explores the potential link between developmental stuttering and the gut-brain connection by examining gut microbiota differences in GNPTAB mouse models.

In this episode, Dr. Chow, Sayan Nanda, and Dr. Guarino provide essential background context before walking through the study’s development, methodology, and key findings. They discuss the potential role of the microbiome in other neurodevelopmental conditions, the challenges of translating mouse model research to human studies, and the exciting directions for future research this study has prompted.

Article discussed:

• Nanda, S., Lamot, B., Guarino, N. et al. Atypical gut microbiota composition in a mouse model of developmental stuttering. Sci Rep 14, 23457 (2024). https://doi.org/10.1038/s41598-024-74766-x

Previous Stuttering Foundation Podcast episode referenced, 'Genetics and Stuttering with Dr. Dennis Drayna.'

Delaware Stuttering Project Webpage

Dr. Ho Ming Chow, Associate Professor at the University of Delaware and a principal investigator for the Delaware Stuttering Project, received his Bachelor’s and Master’s Degrees in Engineering at the University of Hong Kong. After working as an engineer for a few years, he became interested in studying human cognition and went to Germany for his doctoral study. He obtained his Ph.D. in Cognitive Sciences with an emphasis on Cognitive Psychology at the University of Osnabrück. He completed his postdoctoral training at the National Institutes of Health. Before joining the University of Delaware in 2019, he was a research faculty at the University of Michigan and Nemours Children’s Hospital, Delaware.

Sayan Nanda received his Master of Science in Data Informatics from the University of Southern California and his Bachelor of Technology in Computer Science and Engineering from the Manipal Institute of Technology. Sayan is currently a Ph.D. student in the Communication Sciences and Disorders department at the University of Delaware. Sayan is primarily interested in stuttering research and the application of statistics and machine learning techniques in the same. His focus is on neuroimaging.

Dr. Nicole Guarino is an adjunct faculty at the Department of Communication Sciences and Disorders, the University of Delaware. She received her PhD in Neuroscience from Thomas Jefferson University and her B.A. in Neuroscience from Franklin and Marshall College. She has been working in Dr. Chow’s lab since 2022 and is interested in the neurobiological bases of stuttering.

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Gemma Clarke, MSc, BA (Hons), joins host, Sara MacIntyre, M.A., CCC-SLP, for an insightful introduction to Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP) and its potential role in stuttering (stammering) therapy. In this episode, Gemma explores key NLP principles, shares practical clinical applications and real-world examples, and discusses opportunities for further learning. 

Resources:

• Michael Palin Centre NLP Training Course (February 2025)
• Other training courses through MPC

Gemma Clarke, MSc, BA (Hons), works with young people who stammer, their parents, as well as with adults who stammer at The Michael Palin Centre in London, UK and in private practice . She is passionate about working holistically with clients, ensuring therapy is tailored to the specific needs of the child or young person and their family. Gemma is part of the MPC teaching team and teaches a range of MPC courses. She is responsible for delivering the Palin PCI Accreditation Programme and supports other SLTs through supervision.

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David Luterman, Ed.D., CCC-SLP joins host Sara MacIntyre, M.A., CCC-SLP, to discuss empowering clients throughout the therapeutic journey. Dr. Luterman highlights the importance of establishing a collaborative relationship early in the process, avoiding the pitfalls of 'miracle working,' fostering client confidence, and making the client as self-sufficient as possible. Dr. Luterman walks listeners through practical examples within stuttering therapy with the aim of supporting client-driven discovery, confidence, and independence.

Related Resources:

• 60 Years of Clinical Teaching in Counseling: Reflections with Dr. David Luterman (Season 6: Episode 5, Stuttering Foundation Podcast)
• Sharpening Counseling Skills Course through Stuttering Foundation
• Parent Counseling: Conversations with David Luterman Parts 1 & 2 through Stuttering Foundation
• Counseling Persons with Communication Disorders as part of the Virtual Learning by Stuttering Foundation Series
• Counseling Persons with Communication Disorders Textbook
• Working on the Family Level as part of the Virtual Learning by Stuttering Foundation Series

David Luterman, Ed.D., CCC-SLP, is a professor emeritus at Emerson College in Boston, Massachusetts where he taught full-time for 40 years and he has continued to teach the counseling course for 20 more years beyond that (not something many people can say!). He is the author of many articles and several books, including his seminal book called Counseling Persons with Communication Disorders and Their Families, now in its 5th edition. He has done several podcasts and videos through the Stuttering Foundation called Counseling People who Stutter and Their Families and Conversations with Parents. In addition to authoring many books, he is a well-known teacher, researcher, consultant, and lecturer. Dr. Luterman is a fellow of the American Speech-Language-Hearing Association and recipient of the Frank Kleffner Clinical Achievement Award (2011).

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Kathleen Scaler Scott, Ph.D., CCC-SLP, BCS-SCF, joins host Sara MacIntyre, M.A., CCC-SLP, to discuss all things cluttering. In this episode, Dr. Scaler Scott provides an updated overview of cluttering, including how we define and diagnose it with our current understanding. She shares insights into how the field is evolving, debunks myths, and explores the cluttering experience. Dr. Scaler Scott also highlights valuable resources for further learning and offers practical takeaways. Think of this episode as your updated foundation for understanding cluttering.

Resources:

• 'The Cluttering Experience' Rutger Wilhelm Stuttering Foundation Podcast Episode
• 'Cluttering: Expanding Evaluation & Treatment' Virtual Learning Session
• 'Cluttering: Shared Experiences' Virtual Learning Session
• Cluttering Conversations Podcast
• ASHA Leader Article: Debunking Myths About Cluttering
• Cluttering Curriculum Resources (as mentioned in episode)

Kathleen Scaler Scott, Ph.D., CCC-SLP, BCS-SCF, is a practicing speech-language pathologist, Board Certified Specialist in Stuttering, Cluttering and Fluency, and Professor of Speech-Language Pathology at Misericordia University. She has been a practicing clinician for 30 years in hospital, school, and private practice settings. Dr. Scaler Scott’s research interests are largely in cluttering, atypical disfluency, and child language and literacy disorders. She has spoken nationally and internationally and authored peer reviewed articles, book chapters and books on the topic of fluency, literacy and pragmatic challenges. She was the first Coordinator of the International Cluttering Association, and is the recipient of the 2018 Deso Weiss Award for Excellence in the Field of Cluttering, and the 2018 Professional of the Year award from the National Stuttering Association. In 2020, Dr. Scaler Scott received the Judge Max and Tillie Rosenn Excellence in Teaching Award from Misericordia University. In 2022, she became a Fellow of the American Speech-Language-Hearing Association.She is co-editor of Cluttering: A Handbook of Research, Intervention, and Education, co-author of Managing Cluttering: A Comprehensive Guidebook of Activities, author of Fluency Plus: Managing Fluency Disorders in Individuals with Multiple Diagnoses and co-author of the recently released Second Edition of the Source for Stuttering and Cluttering. She is also co-founder and co-host of the podcast Cluttering Conversations, a free podcast available on SoundCloud. 

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Julia Kerrigan, B.A., current second year Master's student and the University of Iowa, and Shelley B. Brundage, Ph.D., CCC-SLP, BCS-SCF, Fellow-ASHA, join host, Sara MacIntyre, M.A., CCC-SLP, to discuss a recent paper published in the Journal of Communication Disorders, 'Lived Experiences of Children who Stutter in Their Own Voices.' The authors begin by sharing a bit about their professional journeys into stuttering, research areas of interest, and then dive into discussing their motivation to further explore and document the lived experiences of young people who stutter where they emphasize the real need to increase this particular area of research within our field of stuttering. They proceed to walk through their design, findings, impressions, and areas of clinical consideration and application.

Lived Experiences of Children who Stutter in Their Own Voices
Julia S. Kerrigan; Shelley Brundage
September 2024
Journal of Communication Disorders
DOI: 10.1016/j.jcomdis.2024.106468

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Julia Kerrigan, B.A. is a current second-year Master’s student at the University of Iowa and a Teaching Artist with the SPACE Community and Arts program.

Shelley B. Brundage, Ph.D., CCC-SLP, BCS-SCF, Fellow-ASHA, is professor in the Department of Speech, Language, and Hearing Sciences at the George Washington University (GWU). She is a certified SLP and a board-certified specialist in stuttering, cluttering, and fluency. She is the co-chair of the tri-annual Oxford Stuttering and Cluttering Research Conference. Her research addresses clinical questions that enhance the lives of persons who stutter, by improving procedures for assessment, treatment, and clinical education in stuttering. Recent work has merged her expertise in assessing student learning outcomes with her expertise in the development and use of virtual reality technologies; this work has led to grants, publications, and awards for innovation. She teaches graduate courses on stuttering and research methods and is the recipient of numerous awards for teaching excellence and mentoring. She is the co-author of two books, the seventh edition of A Handbook on Stuttering and Writing Scientific Research in Communication Sciences and Disorders.