We've made it to a huge milestone: 20 podcast episodes. 

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For our 20th episode, we chat with Brent Beshore, CEO and Founder of Permanent Equity. 

We're living in unprecedented times. COVID-19 is wreaking havoc on our day-to-day lives. It's shutting down businesses and entire economies. We don't know when we'll return to "normal". And when we do, we don't know what that new "normal" will look like. 

In this episode I ask Brent to flesh out some of his latest essay pieces on mental models, cutting expenses and the new normal for life and business. 

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