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Dr Niki Harré is a Psychology Professor from The University of Auckland who focuses on sustainability and social change (among other areas). She authored Psychology for a Better World (check out her video summary of the book here) and has contributed significantly to the academic world on thinking about sustainability and how we can change societal behaviours for the common good.

This fascinating conversation draws on Niki's ideas that challenge the status quo in several ways. She builds on the ideas put forward in the book Finite and Infinite Games (James Carse) – the framework of identifying that most pursuits can be split into finite games (played for the purpose of winning) and infinite games (played for the purpose of continuing the play).

Find out more about Niki here.

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