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In this special finale to our Anthropy mini-series, we share the keynote speech from The Right Honourable Kemi Badenoch MP, Leader of the Conservative Party, followed by audience reactions and analysis. This unique episode provides insight into current political thinking on sustainability, business, and growth - including Badenoch's controversial comments questioning the UK's 2050 net zero targets and her perspective on "green jobs." After the speech, we gather reactions from business leaders attending Anthropy, including Ben Tolhurst from Business Declares, Alex Barker from Be More Pirate, and Joe Turnball from Bull & Wolf, who offer critical analysis of the speech and discuss its implications for sustainability efforts.
🎯 Key Speech Points1. Business climate and bureaucracy concerns
2. Challenge to Net Zero 2050 target
3. Vision for national renewal
4. Position on government's role
1. Ben Tolhurst (Business Declares)
2. Alex Barker (Be More Pirate)
3. Joe Turnball (Bull & Wolf)
1. Political positioning shift
2. Business community response
3. Evidence and planning questions
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For the final episode in our Anthropy special series, we speak with Paul Nowak, General Secretary of the Trades Union Congress (TUC), representing 48 unions and 5.5 million workers across every sector of the UK economy. Paul shares a powerful perspective on ensuring a just transition to a sustainable economy, drawing on his personal experience growing up in Merseyside during the industrial changes of the 1980s and 1990s. He discusses the importance of bringing workers to the table when planning for sustainability transitions, the role public services can play in reducing emissions, and why skills development is crucial to sustainable economic transformation. Paul argues that without fairness at the heart of the transition, we risk having no transition at all.
🎯 Key Takeaways1. Just transition requires concrete plans, not warm words
2. De-industrialisation is not a viable path to net zero
3. Public services can lead the way in emission reduction
4. Workers need to be involved in net zero planning
5. Flexibility and lifelong learning are key skills for the future
1. Establish workplace "green reps"
2. Develop transition plans collaboratively
3. Reimagine service delivery models
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Paul Nowak is the General Secretary of the Trades Union Congress (TUC), representing 48 unions and just short of 5.5 million workers across every sector of the UK economy. With a background growing up in Merseyside during the industrial changes of the 1980s and 1990s, Paul brings firsthand understanding of what happens when industrial transition is mismanaged. He advocates for a just transition to a sustainable economy that creates good quality employment in the long term, while ensuring workers have a voice in shaping their future.
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In this episode of our Anthropy special series, we speak with Joanna Yarrow, who helps run Human Nature Places, a company creating neighbourhoods that make sustainable living easier. Joanna brings a unique perspective shaped by her upbringing in a Sussex woodland with "Good Life" parents who embraced sustainability before it was fashionable. Her journey from homemade clothes and organic sandwiches to working with IKEA on sustainability reveals how she's navigated the tension between sustainable values and modern aspirations. Joanna discusses how sustainability needs to connect to people's everyday lives to truly succeed, focusing particularly on food and transportation as key impact areas. She offers a refreshing take on joy as an important but overlooked sustainability metric.
🎯 Key Takeaways1. Making sustainability relatable to everyday life
2. Food and transportation offer the biggest impact opportunities
3. Joy deserves more attention as a sustainability metric
4. There's no silver bullet - action is what matters
5. Sustainable placemaking goes beyond efficient buildings
1. Prioritise food and transportation changes
2. Frame sustainability through personal benefits
3. Add joy and social connection to sustainability initiatives
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Joanna Yarrow helps run Human Nature Places, a property development company that designs, builds, and manages neighborhoods that make sustainable living easier. With a background shaped by growing up in a woodland in Sussex with environmentally conscious parents in the 1970s, Joanna has dedicated her career to making sustainability accessible and appealing to mainstream audiences. She previously spent seven years leading sustainability initiatives at IKEA, where she helped integrate environmental considerations into everyday product design and business operations.
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“That’s genius!” - Charlie Luxton in response to Gbemi’s revolutionary new idea… In this episode of our Anthropy special series recorded at the Eden Project, we speak with Dr. Gbemi Oluleye from Imperial College London. Gbemi brings a refreshing academic perspective to how businesses can make sustainable transitions affordable. As a lecturer at the Grantham Institute, she leads research on making sustainability economically viable for the manufacturing sector while also running executive education programs for sustainability officers. Gbemi discusses the need for convergent thinking, offers a sobering assessment of how late the sustainability movement started, and proposes a revolutionary new metric to track how planetary degradation impacts human productivity.
🎯 Key Takeaways1. It's not just the cost, but how we see costs
2. Convergent thinking is the most valuable business skill for the future
3. The sustainability movement started too late
4. We need a metric for planetary impact on human productivity
5. Businesses need safe spaces to discuss implementation challenges
1. Adopt whole-system accounting practices in your organisation
2. Create cross-functional sustainability teams
3. Connect environmental metrics to human impacts
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Dr. Gbemi Oluleye is a lecturer at the Grantham Institute at Imperial College London, where she leads research activities focused on making sustainable transitions affordable for industry and the manufacturing sector. She translates her research into executive education programs for chief sustainability officers and sustainability leads, helping them implement strategies in cost-effective ways. Gbemi also teaches Masters students at Imperial on creating sustainable futures, focusing on both the economics and innovation required to drive change.
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Continuing our Anthropy special series from the Eden Project, we speak with Andy Jasper, CEO of the Eden Project itself. Andy shares his philosophy that sustainability should follow regeneration - that we need to boost and accelerate natural systems before we can sustain them. With a career spanning the RHS, National Trust, and now Eden Project, Andy brings a wealth of knowledge about how large-scale environmental projects can transform landscapes and communities. He discusses Eden's global expansion with projects in China, Costa Rica, and across the UK, and shares his perspective on the importance of confidence and optimism as key skills for business leaders navigating the sustainability transition.
🎯 Key Takeaways1. Regeneration before sustainability
2. Global Eden Projects are expanding the model worldwide
3. Confidence and optimism are essential business skills
4. Nature has no waste - and neither should we
1. Focus on soil health in your garden or community
2. Involve diverse perspectives in decision-making
3. Try circular economy practices in your next project
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Andy Jasper is the CEO of the Eden Project, a role he took up six months prior to this interview. With a background as Director of Gardens and Parklands for the National Trust and Director of the Investment Program for the Royal Horticultural Society, Andy has had what he describes as "one of the best careers in the world, working in gardens, traveling around the world, and helping make botanic gardens more beautiful and greener places." He previously worked at Eden as Head of Research and Evaluation, giving him deep insight into the organisation's operations and impact.
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Welcome to our special Anthropy25 mini-series, recorded live at the Eden Project in Cornwall! Anthropy brings together business leaders, politicians, NGOs, and emerging leaders to tackle society's biggest sustainability challenges. In this episode, we speak with Andy Middleton about place-based change, breakthrough businesses, and what he calls "the cool stuff that hasn't been tried yet." Andy shares insights on how funding structures often discourage collaboration and how changing this could accelerate sustainability solutions. He also discusses the potential of hyper-localism and the importance of embracing uncertainty as we transition to a more sustainable future.
🎯 Key Takeaways1. The power of connecting the right people
2. Short-term funding creates short-term thinking
3. Breakthrough businesses are ready to scale
4. Curiosity and embracing uncertainty are essential skills
1. Switch your pension to ethical investments
2. Talk about positive changes you want to see
3. Build your sustainability tribe
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Andy Middleton has been an early pioneer in the B Corp movement in the UK. He founded TYF, an adventure and education company in Wales, and now runs multiple social impact initiatives including Do Good Faster. Andy's work focuses on accelerating sustainability solutions through business, education, and place-based change.
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Working with your competitors might sound counterintuitive, but it could be your smartest business strategy. In this revealing conversation with Sebastian Munden (Chair of Ad Net Zero) and Fiona Ball (Group Director for Sustainability at Sky), discover why sustainability challenges are creating unexpected alliances that benefit everyone's bottom line. Learn how standardised measurement tools, shared best practices, and coordinated action can reduce costs, accelerate innovation, and create market differentiation - while still maintaining healthy competition where it matters most. For business leaders looking beyond short-term thinking, this episode provides actionable frameworks to turn industry collaboration into competitive advantage.
🎯 Key Takeaways
⚡ Quick Wins & Actionable Steps
1️⃣Join Your Industry's Sustainability Initiative
2️⃣ Implement the "Target, Measure, Act" Approach
3️⃣ Share Your Sustainability Journey Transparently
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🎙 Guests
Sebastian Munden
Fiona Ball
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Green Element Group is an environmental management consultancy offering a range of bespoke sustainability services, products, and resources to accelerate the just transition to a stable climate. The Group consists of Green Element Limited, Compare Your Footprint Limited, and Sustainability Solved Podcast and Resource Hub.
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With environmental legislation stalled in Parliament, forward-thinking businesses aren't waiting for government action. In this episode we go behind the scenes in Westminster with former ocean rower turned MP Roz Savage, who reveals why political uncertainty shouldn't slow your sustainability journey - and how proactive businesses are turning environmental leadership into competitive advantage. Learn practical strategies for future-proofing your organisation while building customer and employee loyalty through environmental innovation.
🎯 Key Takeaways
The Business Case for Environmental Leadership
Community-Driven Solutions Are Gaining Power
Preparing for Future Regulation
⚡ Quick Wins & Actionable Steps
1️⃣ Map Your Environmental Risk and Opportunity
2️⃣ Build Local Sustainability Partnerships
3️⃣ Develop a Regulation-Ready Strategy
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Green Element Group is an environmental management consultancy offering a range of bespoke sustainability services, products, and resources to accelerate the just transition to a stable climate. The Group consists of Green Element Limited, Compare Your Footprint Limited, and Sustainability Solved Podcast and Resource Hub.
Find out more about Green Element Group here and benefit from a 20% discount on the first year of subscription to Compare Your Footprint, the highest quality carbon footprint software for your organisation. When registering, click 'Got a Coupon' and enter code 'PODCAST' to claim discount.
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How does one of the UK's largest infrastructure companies successfully transition 27,000 employees to achieve net zero? Abby Chicken, Head of Sustainability at Openreach, reveals practical strategies for tackling major sustainability challenges - from electrifying the UK's second-largest van fleet to engaging thousands of employees and suppliers in sustainable practices. Whether you're leading a large-scale transformation or just starting your sustainability journey, this episode provides actionable insights on driving organisational change while maintaining business performance.
🎯 Key Takeaways:
Infrastructure Transition
Stakeholder Engagement
Supplier Integration
⚡ Quick Wins (Next 24 Hours):
Action 1: Map your sustainability messaging [30 mins]
Resource needed: Stakeholder mapping template
Success indicator: Different value propositions identified for key stakeholder groups
Action 2: Audit supplier contracts [2 hours]
Resource needed: Current supplier agreements
Success indicator: Opportunities identified to embed sustainability requirements
Action 3: Identify potential sustainability champions [1 hour]
Resource needed: Employee roster and team structure
Success indicator: List of employees who demonstrate both business acumen and sustainability interest, representing different departments/levels
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🎙 Guest:
Abby Chicken
Head of Sustainability, Openreach
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Organisation: Openreach
🏢 Green Element Group
Green Element Group is an environmental management consultancy offering a range of bespoke sustainability services, products, and resources to accelerate the just transition to a stable climate. The Group consists of Green Element Limited, Compare Your Footprint Limited, and Sustainability Solved Podcast and Resource Hub.
Find out more about Green Element Group here and benefit from a 20% discount on the first year of subscription to Compare Your Footprint, the highest quality carbon footprint software for your organisation. When registering, click 'Got a Coupon' and enter code 'PODCAST' to claim discount.
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Hosts: Will Richardson, Charlie Luxton
Production: Soundquake
Exec-Producer: Sam Hamilton-Turner
Producer: Jake Lee-Savage
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From bottles to biodiversity! Welcome to Sustainability Solved! In this episode, hosts Will and Charlie dive into the fascinating world of wine and sustainability with Dom De Ville from the Wine Society. First set up in 1874 by a bunch of people who wanted to pay a fair price for their booze, the Wine Society is leading the charge in tackling supply chain emissions, improving agricultural practices, and supporting winemakers across the globe. If you're curious about Scope 3 emissions, regenerative viticulture, and innovative approaches to sustainability, this episode is for you.
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Case Study Format
Problem
The wine industry faces mounting sustainability challenges:
Solutions
Investing in Suppliers (Insetting):
Reducing Glass Bottle Emissions:
Regenerative Agriculture:
Collaboration:
Producers Making a Difference:
Results
Takeaways
Resources
Green Element Group is an environmental management consultancy offering a range of bespoke sustainability services, products, and resources to accelerate the just transition to a stable climate. The Group consists of Green Element Limited, Compare Your Footprint Limited, and Sustainability Solved Podcast and Resource Hub.
Find out more about Green Element Group here and benefit from a 20% discount on the first year of subscription to Compare Your Footprint, the highest quality carbon footprint software for your organisation. When registering, click ‘Got a Coupon’ and enter code ‘PODCAST‘ to claim discount.
Sponsors
This episode is brought to you by Business Declares, a network inspiring businesses to address the climate, ecological, and social emergency. Learn more at Business Declares.
Credits
Hosts: Will Richardson, Charlie Luxton
Production: Soundquake
Exec-Producer: Sam Hamilton-Turner
Producer: Jake Lee-Savage
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