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Westminster, Colorado. Feb 14, 1999. When Rich Lesmeister got the call that his friend, Paul Skiba, was missing, he asked right away if there was anything he could do to help. The call was from Paul’s on-off girlfriend, Teresa Donovan. It wasn’t just Paul that was missing, Teresa said. His daughter, Sarah, and his employee, Lorenzo Chivers, had also vanished. No one had seen the them since February 7, exactly a week before. Rich and his wife Carol went to the address where Paul’s moving business, Tuff Movers, was located. Smeared across the side of one of the large moving trucks was what appeared to be blood. Another truck had several bullet holes in it. On realizing that it was a crime scene, Rich and Carol called the police. 

If you have any information about this case, please call the Westminster Police Department at 303-658-4360. Callers can remain anonymous by contacting Metro Denver Crime Stoppers at 720-913-7867. Anyone with information may be eligible for a reward up to $4,000. 

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A Case Frozen In Time

Cold case: 20 years later, murders of 9-year-old girl, father and employee remain unsolved

Cold case: After 20 years, Westminster police still investigating suspected triple homicide

Disappearances of Paul and Sarah Skiba and Lorenzo Chivers

CBI - Paul Carroll Skiba

Sharon Skiba Obituary

NecroSearch Homepage

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Pocatello, Idaho. September 22, 2006. When Frank and Allison Contreras asked Cassie Jo Stoddart, their 16-year-old niece, to house sit and look after their pets for the weekend, Cassie happily obliged. Cassie enjoyed spending time at their house, which was large and in a pretty remote area. Frank and Allison also told Cassie that her boyfriend, Matt, could hang out at the house with her while they were away. Cassie was excited; she had no reason to believe anything bad would happen. She had no way of knowing the horrors that were in store for her in that big, isolated house on Whispering Cliffs Drive...

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Full transcripts from videos made by Brian Draper and Torey Adamcik:

Idaho v. Draper

House where murder of Cassie Jo Stoddart took place proving hard to sell

Remembering Cassie Jo — Brother opens up on 10th anniversary of grisly murder

Adamcik hopes testing of knives used to kill Cassie Jo Stoddart will prove his innocence

Supreme Court upholds Adamcik's sentence, releases transcripts of video made by killers

Idaho Supreme Court upholds conviction and sentence of Torey Adamcik

Life sentence upheld for man convicted of murder as teenager

Torey Adamcik v. Keith Yordy

Idaho upholds teen's murder conviction

A Retroactive Break for Juvenile Offenders

Cassie Jo Stoddart - Wikipedia

Cassie Jo Stoddart Reddit thread

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Lubbock, Texas. September 13, 2005. A worker at the Lubbock City landfill spotted what looked like a brand new suitcase amongst the heaps of trash. It was a miracle that it caught his eye, given the sheer size and depth of the landfill. It wasn't something that he saw every day, so he decided to investigate. He would never forget what he found inside. The woman was naked and curled into a fetal position. Her body was covered in bruises. On her ankle was a tattoo of the word “Summer”. 

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Article by District Attorney Matt Powell about this case: They pieced together a puzzle, and a disturbing picture emerged

Forensic Files 14x17 Seeing Red

Texas ‘Suitcase Killer’ Murders 2 Women And Discards Each Of Them In The Trash

Rosendo Rodriguez Guilty on Two Counts Of Capital Murder

Texas "suitcase killer" Rosendo Rodriguez set for execution Tuesday

"Suitcase killer" executed, says he's "fought the good fight, I have run the good race"

Rosendo Rodriguez Moved to Tears During Punishment Testimony

Texas executes Lubbock “suitcase killer”

Last words of a killer: Texas executes man who stuffed woman's body into luggage

ROSENDO RODRIGUEZ, III v. THE STATE OF TEXAS (original)

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Washington D.C. April 25, 1971. 13-year-old Carol Spinks purchased TV dinners and bread from the 7-Eleven, as she had been asked by her older sister, then began walking the half-mile home. But she never made it. Six days later, Carol's body was found discarded on the side of the freeway. Carol's murder was horrifying, but little did D.C. investigators know, the terror was only just beginning. Between May 1971 and September 1972, the bodies of six African American girls would be found along the side of the freeway. The killer, who is to this day known only by the moniker "The Freeway Phantom", was never apprehended. 2021 marks the 50th anniversary of five of six Freeway Phantom murders.

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The Washington Post piece I referred to at the beginning of the episode: Six black girls were brutally murdered in the early ’70s. Why was this case never solved?

'Freeway Phantom' Slayings Haunt Police, Families Six Young D.C. Females Vanished in the '70s

D.C. Jury Convicts Man Accused in Green Vega Rapes

Opinion: Would the Freeway Phantom case already be solved if the victims weren’t black?

Freeway Phantom

U.S. Census Data

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Columbia, Missouri. 2004. When a group of friends saw a young male student lying on the ground between two apartment buildings on the University of Missouri campus, they thought he was just passed out from a night of heavy drinking. However, on closer inspection, they saw blood everywhere. When police arrived, they initially considered that perhaps he had fallen after trying to jump from the roof of one building to another. But it quickly became clear that this was not the case.

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Forensic Files - Season 10, Episode 26 : Cop Out

Missouri Police Officer Murders College Student After He Threatens To Expose Their Affair

Steven Rios Now: An Update on His Life In Prison & Jail Sentence

SPECIAL REPORT, Part Two: Ex-Wife, Former In-Laws Stand by Convicted Murderer

Police Officer Convicted of Killing Gay Lover

Murderpedia - Steven Arthur Rios

Remembering Jesse Valencia

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