Join Tally and Kim as they chat with Lisa Lucas, executive director of the National Book Foundation, and incoming senior vice president of the Knopf imprints Pantheon and Schocken Books. The discussion is all about reading recommendations, from what to read if you've got a pandemic-related attention-span problem to underrated authors, and it's all a lot of fun.

Here are the books mentioned, all linked on Bookshop.org that will channel your order through an indie bookstore in the US: The Chiffon Trenches: A Memoir by Andre Leon Talley, Luster by Raven Leilani, Caste by Isabel Wilkerson, A Burning by Megha Majumdar, Telephone by Percival Everett, Interior Chinatown by Charles Yu, Books by Cathy Park Hong, The Vanishing Half by Brit Bennett, Saga by Brian K. Vaughan and Fiona Staples, Wow, No Thank-You by Samatha Irby, The Path to Power: The Years of Lyndon Johnson I by Robert Caro, The Yellow House by Sarah Broom, Guts by Raina Telgemeir, New People by Danzi Senna, Caucasia by Danzi Senna, Pachinko by Min Jin Lee, a book by Alice Munro, The Female Persuasion by Meg Wolitzer, The House of Mirth by Edith Wharton, Working by Studs Terkel, Just Us by Claudia Rankine,

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