Taste Radio

Building a lasting business in a volatile market isn't easy – just ask Paul Hobbs.

In this episode, the renowned winemaker and founder of Paul Hobbs Wines shares what it takes to scale a global enterprise while staying anchored to sustainable farming, and minimal-intervention practices amid a capital-intensive, ever-evolving industry.

He explains why capital discipline and patience matter more than hype - and how a commitment to authenticity can transform a craft into a durable, long-term brand.

Show notes:

0:20: Paul Hobbs, Founder, Paul Hobbs Wines – On location at the 2026 Nassau Paradise Island Wine & Food Festival, Paul offers his view of the wine industry's current slump – framing it not as a crisis, but as a necessary reset. He explains why he is confident in wine's long-term resilience, while pointing to affordability as a key barrier for younger consumers and urging the industry to better convey its emotional and cultural depth to rekindle engagement. Reflecting on his career, Paul credits early formative experiences and his trailblazing work with Malbec in Argentina, which helped elevate the varietal on the global stage. He also emphasizes the importance of authenticity, curiosity, and long-term commitment over short-term commercial gains, sharing lessons on scaling an international business, building trust across cultures, and maintaining a disciplined, capital-efficient approach to growth.

Brands in this episode: Paul Hobbs Wines, Alamos, Viña Cobos, Opus One

Grüns landed a $1.2 billion acquisition less than three years after launch. Added protein still dominates shelf space – but how much runway does the trend really have left? Meanwhile, bottled water is facing growing scrutiny as its long-standing "health halo" begins to crack.

We unpack the headlines and trends shaping innovation across food and beverage – and what they reveal about where CPG is headed next.

Show notes:

0:20: Brad Is Back. Big Green Deal. Do We Need Protein In This? On To Austin. The Plastic Problem. – BevNET and Nosh senior reporter Brad Avery joins the show as the hosts unpack Unilever's acquisition of fast-growing functional gummy brand Grüns, and why strong repeat purchase and DTC momentum can drive outsized valuations even without broad retail distribution. From there, the conversation turns to the still-surging "protein in everything" wave, with a look at new protein-forward launches spanning chips, pasta, soda, and coffee, and a candid debate over which formats feel intuitive versus engineered. The hosts also dig into how brands are factoring in the rise of GLP-1 drugs when shaping innovation pipelines. Ray thanks attendees of Taste Radio NYC Meetup, highlights the upcoming Austin meetup, and previews BevNET Live NYC 2026. Brad shares insights from his recent reporting on the bottled water category, where concerns around microplastics and packaging are beginning to chip away at its long-standing health halo – though behavior change remains early. The episode wraps with a tasting of sour innovations, from date-based candy alternatives to low-sugar gummies.

Brands in this episode: Grüns, Goli, Athletic Greens, Liquid I.V., Koia, Khloud, Purely Elizabeth, Kaizen, Protein Pints, Pop Tarts, Laird Superfoods, Crisp Power, Poppi, Olipop, Culture Pop, C4, Bloom, Ballpark, Essentia, Path Water, Open Water, Icelandic Glacial, DADDL, Behave, Warheads

What does it take to turn a scrappy supplement startup into a billion-dollar beverage powerhouse competing with industry giants? In this episode, Nutrabolt founder & CEO Doss Cunningham breaks down the inflection points that turned C4 into a cultural contender.

From capital discipline to distribution-first thinking, Doss shares hard-earned tactical advice, including why he advises founders not to overspend on marketing before your product is widely available, the importance of focusing on high-margin categories to fund growth, investing early in product innovation, and prioritizing talent that believes in the long-term equity of a brand.

Show notes:

0:20: Doss Cunningham, CEO, Nutrabolt – Doss Cunningham reflects on the company's evolution since 2019, when it was still an early stage entrant in the energy drink market with C4. He explains how the business has grown into a major player in performance beverages, powered by a disciplined financial strategy, a focus on high-margin products, strategic distribution partnerships, continuous innovation, strong talent recruitment, and a culture of constant improvement. Cunningham also discusses Nutrabolt's breakthrough into mainstream relevance, emphasizing capital efficiency and a philosophy of raising funds only when necessary. He points to shifting consumer behavior – particularly among Gen Z, who prioritize health-oriented products, authenticity, and discovery through platforms like TikTok – where Nutrabolt has built a performance-based creator network. The conversation also covers Nutrabolt's investment in Bloom, which he viewed as a complementary brand capable of reaching new demographics and scaling into a meaningful beverage platform. Finally, he outlines a long-term vision of building Nutrabolt into the "Procter & Gamble of health and wellness," driven by both internal innovation and strategic acquisitions.

Brands in this episode: C4, Red Bull, Monster, Bloom

Packaging and color have always influenced buying decisions, but in today's CPG landscape they're becoming two of the most powerful levers – capable of shaping perceived flavor and even determining whether a product makes it into the cart.

In this episode, the hosts explore how Kind Snacks' shift to paper wrappers surfaced unexpected changes in taste perception, while the explosive rise of ube and other visually striking ingredients underscores how "camera-ready" products are driving real demand. It's a deep dive into how sensory cues and social media aesthetics are reshaping what wins on the shelf.

Show notes:

0:20: TX Time. Rising In S.D. Tune In Today (And Tomorrow). Paper & Purple. Liv Real, With A Flip Phone. - The hosts preview upcoming meetups in New York City and Austin, alongside BevNET Live NYC 2026 and Naturally San Diego's Naturally Rising pitch competition. They thank a pair of "angels" for stopping by the office and tease an upcoming interview with Supernatural Ventures' Chris Robb on the Nombase Podcast. Ray highlights a Taste Radio episode chronicling the growth story of Toom garlic dip, before the conversation shifts to Mars' work scaling sustainable packaging for Kind bars and its potential influence on taste perception and consumer behavior. They also examine how vibrant colors – such as ube's striking purple – fuel social media buzz and inspire product innovation. The episode closes with product tastings spanning ube-coated macadamia nuts, nostalgic-style juice drinks, and a better-for-you energy beverage, followed by a creative marketing campaign featuring a redesigned flip phone aimed at encouraging real-world engagement over screen time.

Brands in this episode: Kind Snacks, Mars, Toom, Nutrabolt, C4, Bloom, Svedka, Fila Manila, Sweety Mochi, Hawaiian Host, Umma Juice, Mauna Loa, Liv Real, Riot Energy, Hippie Energy

The latest episode of Taste Radio's Elevator Talk spotlights innovative leaders from Sleet Pops, Dime, Joy Supply and Sidepiece. The founders and operators introduce their brands and share recent company updates and milestones. This week's special co-host is Wade Yenny, the Vice President of Brand Management & Business Development for Vdriven. He offers insightful questions, thoughtful feedback, and strategic perspective alongside regular host Ray Latif, editor and producer of the Taste Radio podcast. Early-stage food and beverage entrepreneurs are encouraged to apply for future episodes of Elevator Talk. Participation is free, interviews are conducted remotely, and it's a unique opportunity to pitch your product, share news, and receive expert feedback from industry leaders. Apply now to be featured in an upcoming episode.

After more than a decade of grinding in obscurity – including years of failed commercialization attempts and even living in his brother's basement – Toom founder and CEO Matt Joyce is finally turning a humble garlic dip into one of the fastest-growing CPG brands in America.

In this conversation, Matt reveals how he transformed a beloved Lebanese staple into a mainstream condiment, why he stayed under the radar for years, and how a relentless focus on flavor, branding and persistence helped him break through with major retailers and build a family-run success story.

Show notes:

0:20: Matt Joyce, Founder & CEO, Toom – On location at Expo West 2026, Matt shares the story behind Toom, a condiment inspired by his Lebanese roots and a desire to offer something different from the usual ketchup. He talks about how, instead of marketing it as a niche ethnic product, he focused on creating a brand with broad appeal through strong, universal branding. Matt dives into the decade of research, development, and tweaking it took to get Toom to market, and how he handled rapid growth once everything clicked. He also opens up about his relentless outreach to buyers and how a big break with Whole Foods helped put the brand on the map, leading to opportunities with retailers like Wegmans, Publix, and Costco. Matt discusses the importance of direct feedback from consumers, the power of in-store demos, and his strategy of keeping the brand low-key until it gained real momentum. Throughout it all, he credits his family's support, his own determination, and a long-term vision for pushing through years of uncertainty.

Brands in this episode: Toom, Sabra

Were they flops – or just ahead of their time?

In this episode, the hosts dig into one of the food and beverage industry's most intriguing debates: whether discontinued products failed because they were poorly conceived, or because the market simply wasn't ready. From drinkable soups and early functional shots to better-for-you snacks and non-alcoholic cocktail concepts, they revisit ideas that may have been too forward-thinking for their moment.

The conversation expands into how today's shifting trends, like functional ingredients and alcohol-free innovation, could give these once-shelved products a second chance at success, where timing, not taste, may have been the real barrier.

Show notes:

0:20: A Week Away. Real Chocolate Debate. Never Had A Shot/Ahead Of Its Time. Chips & I.V. – Ray gives a final call to register for Taste Radio's NYC meetup. Melissa highlights The Hershey Company's plan to return all Reese's and Hershey's products to classic milk and dark chocolate recipes by 2027, sparking a discussion about whether a shift back to "real" ingredients could reshape consumer expectations and premium chocolate demand. The hosts then explore discontinued products, debating whether they failed due to poor execution or were simply ahead of their time, including drinkable soup, better-for-you fruit snacks, non-alcoholic cocktails, and functional shots. They wrap with notable new products, including refreshed pita chip branding, a non-alcoholic "brew," and a quirky collaboration between Grillo's Pickles and Liquid I.V.

Brands in this episode: Hershey, Reese's, Culture Pop, Feastables, Nantucket Nectars, Terranean, Just Ice Tea, Honest Tea, Poland Spring, Liquid IV, Grillo's, Fly By Jing, Fishwife, Justin's, Butterfinger, Tony's Chocolonely, Eat the Change, Welch's, Proposition Cocktail Company, Taki Mai, Spacho, Ahhmigo, Karma, Activate, Mello, Coca-Cola, GoodBelly, Cheribundi, Rhinestone, Poland Spring, Daily Crunch, Fly by Jing, Fishwife, Evergreen, V8, Superfoodio

Celebrity might open the door, but execution is what blows it wide open – and Khloud is proving it.

Co-founded by Khloé Kardashian, the fast-growing functional snack brand has raced from launch to 29,000 doors in just months, secured nationwide placement in Starbucks, and expanded beyond its flagship protein popcorn with a new line of protein chips.

But Khloud's momentum isn't just about star power.

In this episode, co-founder and CEO Jeff Rubenstein – a seasoned CPG operator with leadership experience at Vita Coco and Poppi – shares candid lessons on execution, early pricing missteps, and why celebrity alone doesn't build a lasting brand. He also breaks down how balancing mass visibility with grassroots community-building is key to long-term success.Show notes:

0:20: Jeff Rubenstein, Co-Founder & CEO, Khloud – Jeff discusses his entrepreneurial journey from Coca-Cola to building multiple successful brands and now leading Khloud. He explains Khloud's focus on "female, fun, functionality, and flavor," positioning its products as stylish, better-for-you snacks that stand apart from traditionally male-oriented functional products. Jeff emphasizes that Khloud's success goes beyond celebrity backing and shares key lessons from scaling quickly, including operational challenges like supply shortages, the importance of investing early in the right manufacturing and operations partners, over-promoting and underestimating demand. He expects Khloud to evolve from a product-driven company into a brand-driven one, aiming to create emotional connections with consumers.

Brands in this episode: Khloud, Vita Coco, Coca-Cola, Poppi, Doritos, Alani Nu, Quest, Pringles, Lays, Fritos

Deals aren't slowing – they're stacking up. What explains five strategic acquisitions in under two weeks?

The hosts break down the latest wave of CPG deals, including HOP WTR's sale to Constellation Brands and So Good So You's acquisition by a private investment group – just two of several recent moves. They explore what's fueling continued buyer activity and why non-alcoholic, functional, and better-for-you beverage brands remain especially attractive targets.

Show notes:

0:20: Meet NYC. Good Hops, Good Investment. Pints Park. Frozen Dollars. Yoo Hoo! Yaza! – The hosts preview Taste Radio's upcoming NYC Meetup on April 16 and remind listeners that only registered attendees can join. They also unpack recent acquisitions of hop-infused beverage brand HOP WTR and wellness shot and energy drink company So Good So You, adding to a growing wave of CPG deals. The conversation explores rising demand for non-alcoholic, low-sugar, and functional beverages, along with the execution, focus, and timing required to build a successful brand. They also highlight Protein Pints' entry into a sports stadium as a case study in building awareness – from concessions to grocery shelves – and wrap with their product picks of the week, featuring indulgent coconut water, granola, globally inspired dips, and non-alcoholic cocktails.

Brands in this episode: Huel, Monaco Cocktails, Dirty Shirley, HOP WTR, So Good So You, Hoplark, Spindrift, Athletic Brewing, Lucky Saint, Vive Organic, Kor, Suja, Sol-ti, Protein Pints, Hey!Hunger, Mason Dixie Foods, Zico, 100 Coconuts, Harmless Harvest, Yoo-Hoo, Harney & Sons, Good Mood, Culture Pop, Yaza, Cedar's, Spritz Society, Stellar Granola, Medase

How did two 20-something founders turn a $7,000 investment into one of the fastest-growing brands in CPG, now selling one unit every three seconds? It started with a deceptively simple idea, relentless sampling, meticulous planning and a confident bet that protein ice cream could outshine the biggest names in the game.

I met up with Protein Pints co-founders Paul Reiss and Michael Meadows at Expo West 2026 to discuss the origins and development of their high-protein ice cream brand They share why leading with "protein" was key to standing out, how years of sampling and iteration shaped the product, and how they scaled from just 14 stores to over 10,000 in just under one year.

Fueled by strong branding, great taste, and relentless execution, their rapid rise highlights the power of product-market fit and founder conviction.

Show notes:

0:20: Interview: Michael Meadows & Paul Reiss, Co-Founders, Protein Pints – Paul and Michael reflect on their longtime friendship and how their college experiences ultimately led them to start a company together. They explain that including "protein" in the brand name was a deliberate choice, meant to clearly signal the product's core benefit in a crowded frozen aisle. They also detail the more than two years they spent preparing for launch, rigorously testing recipes, packaging, and branding through extensive sampling and feedback. To fund the business, they reinvested earnings from a small service venture and supplemented that capital with prize money from pitch competitions. They credit strong sales, clear positioning, and a relentless focus on taste as the primary driver of repeat purchases. They acknowledge concerns about scaling too quickly, but lean on conviction in their product and timing, bolstered by a growing team and a network of mentors.

Brands in this episode: Protein Pints, Taste Radio, SkinnyPop, Muscle Milk, Ben & Jerry's, Häagen-Dazs, Van Leeuwen, Super Coffee, Sauz