Allison Sesso (CEO of Undue Medical debt) joins Jason to talk about how much medical debt she and Undue Medical Debt are forgiving these days (it’s in the millions).

Jason and Lindsey get into a moral auditing of the death penalty as President Biden hands down pardons of federal inmates on death row. Lindsey offers an alternative option in Antarctica.

Andy Goldman (Executive Director of Upstream Minnesota) joins Jason to share a personal paddling story in Rice Creek as they discuss the amazing Minnesota outdoors and how we can better take care of it.

Jason gets into his surprise at the level of defense of Matt Gaetz who is being accused of exchanging money for sex and substances.