In this episode of the Awareness to Action Enneagram podcast, Mario Sikora, María José Munita and Seth “Creek” Creekmore talk about coaching Enneagram Type Four. Even though it’s not a common type in Mario's and MJ’s line of work, they discuss how they would approach coaching by addressing their blind spots and accelerators as Creek shares personal insight as a Type Four.

“Yeah, I think that this is not self-interest. It’s identity. It’s like whatever I take in must say something about me, so what is this saying about me?” -María José [14:23]

“The Fours who do really well are the ones who are able to continue to grow into their ability to recognize what really matters and what really doesn’t.” -Mario [22:57]

“Another thing to never say to a Four is can’t things just be ordinary and mundane? Yes, of course they can, but it’s like, but it’s not. To me, ordinary and mundane is just the things we haven't spent time thinking about.” -Creek [29:09]

TIMESTAMPS

[00:01] Intro

[02:18] Don’t coach a lot of Fours

[06:14] Understanding their blind spot

[12:56] Defining the Four’s self-absorption

[17:24] What’s the appropriate investment?

[25:09] Stop being like every other Four

[34:49] A skewed view of the world

[39:40] Breaking news to Fours

[43:13] Outro

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Pod: Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast

Pod: Delusional Optimism

In this episode of the Awareness to Action Enneagram podcast, Mario Sikora and Seth “Creek” Creekmore have a philosophical etymological conversation about three terms–descriptive, predictive and prescriptive–and how they can be misconstrued when it comes to the Enneagram of Personality.

“I also think that the Enneagram works better in the context of a set of other tools. I think that the Enneagram should always be a piece of a toolkit and not the toolkit itself.” -Mario [19:14] 

“But to me, the specific prescription is very personal depending on the person and the issue at hand. If someone is experiencing pain, there's a direction of travel that the doctor will go down to address that. To me, that’s the extent of the Enneagram’s prescription of like, here’s where to look, but beyond the where to look and some potential specifics, it’s mostly just personal. It’s everything external to the Enneagram.” -Creek [21:08]

TIMESTAMPS

[00:01] Intro

[02:53] A descriptive model

[09:40] A predictive model

[16:34] A prescriptive model

[21:46] Pair it down than fill it up

[28:19] An A chord

[33:12] Outro

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Maria Jose Munita: 

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Pod: Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast

Pod: Delusional Optimism

In this episode of the Awareness to Action Enneagram podcast, Mario Sikora, María José Munita and Seth “Creek” Creekmore return to their series on coaching the Enneagram types by talking about Type Three. Mario and MJ explain how this type of Striving to Feel Outstanding is often misunderstood so it’s important to understand the instinctual bias as each subtype requires different coaching needs. However, they also share why this type provides some of their biggest success stories in their work with the corporate world. 

“I also think that the Threes are often misunderstood, misrepresented, misdescribed in a lot of the Enneagram literature.” -Mario [04:27]

“And I’ve seen when it starts to become too hard and too obvious that they’re struggling, they’ll ditch.” -Creek [13:26]

“I think that for them, it’s just so fundamental to have goals and to kind of make the effort to get there. And it almost defines them. I think that with the others, we can all have goals, but they’re not that important to us or they don’t define us as they do for Threes.” -María José [15:07]

TIMESTAMPS

[00:02] Intro

[01:32] Feedback on Coaching Type Two

[03:16] A lot of misunderstandings about Type Threes

[08:41] Fundamentals of Threes

[14:32] Setting goals to know who they are

[17:14] Common things to work on with Type Threes

[23:21] Think about the subtypes

[28:50] Potential mistypings

[34:17] How to build trust

[35:45] Type Three Accelerator: Purpose

[39:18] Ways to incentivize Threes

[46:04] Mario’s final words

[47:03] Outro

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Pod: Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast

Pod: Delusional Optimism

In this episode of the Awareness to Action Enneagram podcast, Mario Sikora and Seth “Creek” Creekmore present this bonus episode of Fathoms, an Enneagram podcast Creek co-hosts with Seth Abram and Lindsey Marks. Lee Fields joins as Lindsey discusses the realization that she was mistyped as a Type Two. This conversation highlights that identifying an Enneagram type is a lot harder than people think, so mistyping can happen. Initially thinking she was a Type Two, Lindsey shares why she thought she fit into this type and how learning that she's in fact a Type Seven has helped her grow as a person.

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Pod: Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast

Pod: Delusional Optimism

Lee Fields:

Web: enneagrammatic.com

IG: @enneagrammatic

Lindsey Marks:

IG: @lindseyfaithdm

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Pod: Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast

Seth Abram:

IG: @integratedenneagram

Music: sethabram.bandcamp.com

Pod: Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast

In this episode of the Awareness to Action Enneagram podcast, Mario Sikora, María José Munita and Seth “Creek” Creekmore continue their series on coaching the Enneagram types by talking about Type Two.

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Pod: Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast

Pod: Delusional Optimism

In this episode of the Awareness to Action Enneagram podcast, Mario Sikora, María José Munita and Seth “Creek” Creekmore start their series on how Mario and MJ coach the Enneagram types, starting with Type One. Each teacher will bring their personal perspectives and share how they approach their style, especially working with their own type.

TIMESTAMPS

[00:01] Intro

[01:32] Too close to home

[08:19] Derailers and blind spots

[15:35] Building a Golden Bridge

[21:44] Redefine perfection

[25:13] Pay attention to the connecting points

[29:57] Willing and able to learn from the client

[31:49] The role of the coach

[40:30] Outro

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Pod: Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast

Pod: Delusional Optimism

In this episode of the Awareness to Action Enneagram podcast, María José Munita returns to share her insight and feedback to this debrief of Jonny’s typing interview. Mario Sikora and Seth “Creek” Creekmore explored various hypotheses to determine Jonny’s Enneagram type in the past two episodes, so the three hosts analyze the two probable types – Navigating Seven and Transmitting Nine.

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Pod: Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast

Pod: Delusional Optimism

In this episode of the Awareness to Action Enneagram podcast, Jonny returns to reflect on the typing interview he did with Mario Sikora featured last week. As they continue to explore Mario’s preliminary hypothesis, Jonny shares what resonated with him. Seth “Creek” Creekmore also brings to the conversation his insight about Jonny and the Enneagram as well as asks questions.

TIMESTAMPS

[00:01] Intro

[01:39] Jonny’s initial reflections

[07:21] Resonating with Type Two

[11:16] Creek’s observations

[17:26] Jonny’s emotionality and demeanor

[26:40] Could he be a Type Nine?

[34:26] Behind Mario’s typing approach

[38:19] Subpoints of Transmitting Nine

[43:58] Unpacking Transmitting Nine

[53:43] Outro

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Pod: Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast

Pod: Delusional Optimism

In this episode of the Awareness to Action Enneagram podcast, Mario Sikora conducts a typing interview with Jonny, a certified life coach. Jonny attended ATA’s certification program and had questions about his type, so Mario asks him specific questions to form a preliminary hypothesis. Next week, Seth “Creek” Creekmore will join these two as they unpack this conversation from December.

TIMESTAMPS

[00:01] Intro

[01:36] What Mario looks for in defining type

[05:41] Jonny’s work in higher ed

[09:33] Growing up on a farm

[13:48] Being a people pleaser

[18:22] Does this person want to be helped, heard or hugged?

[22:08] Instinctual biases and being mistyped as a Four

[26:27] Mario’s preliminary hypothesis

[31:30] What he’s not perceiving from Jonny

[33:39] Navigating vs transmitting

[37:44] In the limelight

[41:53] Why this Enneagram type

[49:19] Jonny’s predictions and other thoughts

[1:02:32] Outro

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Pod: Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast

Pod: Delusional Optimism

In this episode of the Awareness to Action Enneagram podcast, Mario Sikora and Seth “Creek” Creekmore explore a list of books that have had the biggest influence on Mario and the way he thinks about the Enneagram. Even though none of the books are about the Enneagram, they have influenced how Mario thinks about concepts, such as cognitive dissonance and social psychology.

TIMESTAMPS

[00:01] Intro

[02:04] Knowledge is power

[07:09] Mistakes Were Made (But Not by Me)

[11:34] The Demon-Haunted World

[22:42] Philosophy and the Real World

[25:58] The Selfish Gene

[36:13] Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind

[39:20] Sacred World

[44:47] The Essential Drucker

[56:44] Other book recommendations

[59:29] Outro

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Books:

Mistakes Were Made (But Not by Me) by Carol Tavris and Elliot Aronson

The Demon-Haunted World by Carl Sagan

Philosophy and the Real World: An Introduction to Karl Popper by Brian Magee

The Selfish Gene by Richard Dawkins

Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind by Shunryū Suzuki

Sacred World: The Shambhala Way to Gentleness, Bravery, and Power by Jeremy and Karen Hayward

The Essential Drucker by Peter Drucker

The Wisest One in the Room: How You Can Benefit from Social Psychology's Most Powerful Insights by Thomas Gilovich and Lee Ross

How We Know What Isn't So: The Fallibility of Human Reason in Everyday Life by Thomas Gilovich

Psychology of Intelligence Analysis by Richards Heuer

The Beginning of Infinity by David Deutsch

Behave by Robert Sapolsky

Mario Sikora: 

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Pod: Enneagram in a Movie

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Maria Jose Munita: 

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Seth "Creek" Creekmore: 

IG: @_creekmore

Pod: Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast

Pod: Delusional Optimism