The Consult: Real FBI Profilers

In this episode of The Consult, I talk with Áine Cain and Kevin Greenlee, hosts of The Murder Sheet podcast and authors of Shadow of the Bridge: The Delphi Murders and the Dark Side of the American Heartland. We discuss their book with a focus on the behavior in the case of Abigail Williams and Liberty German—and what it reveals about the offender.

You can find Shadow of the Bridge: The Delphi Murders and the Dark Side of the American Heartland here.

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In this final episode of our three-part analysis of the West Memphis Three case, we bring together everything we’ve learned about the murders of Michael Moore, Steve Branch, and Christopher Byers on or about May 5, 1993, and share our overall assessment of the case. Part 3 of 3.

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In this episode, we look at the autopsies and victimologies of the three boys: Michael Moore, Steve Branch, and Christorpher Byers. We review what the medical examiner found, the condition of the bodies, and the significance of the injuries. We also examine the boys’ victimology to better understand who they were and what risk factors may have drawn the offender’s attention. Part 2 of 3.

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In this first episode of our three-part analysis of the West Memphis Three case, we look at the events of May 5, 1993. That afternoon, three 8-year-old boys, Michael Moore, Steve Branch, and Christopher Byers, went missing in West Memphis, Arkansas. The next day, they were found in a drainage ditch in an area known as Robin Hood Hills. They had been murdered.

We cover the timeline of their disappearance, the search efforts, and the discovery of their bodies. We also discuss our initial impressions of the crime scene and what it may reveal about the offender.

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In this episode, Alyssa and Michael McFarland, hosts of Tragedy: A True Crime Podcast, join the show. We discuss the unsolved murder of George “Jody” Kilgore, who was stabbed in his driveway, in broad daylight, on October 6, 2014. He was 50 years old.

For Michael, this case is deeply personal—Jody was his relative—and both he and Alyssa have devoted an entire season of their podcast to telling Jody’s story. In our conversation, we talk about the events surrounding his murder, Jody's life, and why this case deserves far more attention than it has received.

More than a decade later, there are still no answers. Someone knows something.

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In this third episode on the unsolved murder of Karina Holmer, geographic profiler Doug MacGregor joins the show. Doug takes a close look at the locations tied to Karina’s case and what they might reveal about the offender, his comfort zones, and the behaviors behind his choices. We also talk about how geographic profiling and behavioral analysis work together to help narrow the focus in an investigation.

To learn more about Doug MacGregor's work, please visit: https://www.irisinvestigativestrategies.com

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We continue our analysis of the case of Karina Holmer, a 20-year-old au pair from Sweden who was last seen outside a nightclub in Boston in the early morning hours of June 22, 1996. On the afternoon of June 23, the upper half of her body was found in a trash bag in a dumpster about a mile from where she was last seen. We continue our review of the case facts, discuss victimology, and offer our observations about the offender.

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In this episode, we begin our examination of the June 1996 murder of Karina Holmer, a young au pair from Sweden working in the United States. Karina was last seen alive in the early morning hours of Saturday, June 22, in downtown Boston. The next day, her torso was discovered in a trash bag inside a dumpster, about a mile from where she was last seen. She had been severed at the waist. We discuss the known facts and the evidence recovered in this still-unsolved case.

If you have any information about Karina's murder, please call the Boston Police Department Unsolved Homicide Unit at (617) 343-4470. If you wish to remain anonymous, you can call the CrimeStoppers tip line at 1 (800) 494-TIPS (8477) or text the word "TIP" to CRIME (27263). 

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In this episode, Investigator Rita Curley from the University of Massachusetts Amherst’s Equal Opportunity Office joins the show. In addition to her role as an investigator, Rita draws on her background in law enforcement and her experience as a mother to a child with autism to train officers on recognizing and appropriately responding to individuals who may be neurodivergent. She dispels common misconceptions about autism and behavior, offering practical guidance to help law enforcement improve communication, reduce misinterpretations, and ensure safer, more informed interactions.

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We continue our discussion of the murders of four University of Idaho students: Madison Mogen, Kaylee Goncalves, Xana Kernodle, and Ethan Chapin. The students were killed in Moscow, Idaho, on November 13, 2022. The offender pleaded guilty on July 2, 2025. We continue to explore motive, discuss how we would classify the killer behaviorally, and consider whether he was likely to kill again. Part 2 of 2.

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