Today, the former deputy cabinet secretary, Helen Macnamara, speaks to Newscast about the findings of the recent module of the covid inquiry which found that the UK did "too little, too late".

Helen had a front seat for those momentous decisions that shaped the direction of the country during the pandemic, and has previously told the inquiry herself that a "toxic" environment affected decision-making during the crisis.

She gives her reflections on life inside Downing Street at the time, the inquiry’s findings, and how much has changed 5 years on.

Warning: this podcast contains strong language

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