CSI on Fire

The "Dark Side" of Fire Investigation with David Schudel: Both Sides of the Judicial Fence


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Ever wondered what it's like to dissect the aftermath of a fire and uncover the truth hidden in the ashes? Join us as we sit down with David Schudel from Keith Borer Associates, a seasoned forensic scientist with a rich background in both the UK and US judicial systems. 

How do cognitive biases shape the outcome of criminal investigations? In our conversation, David and I dissect this critical issue, using a compelling case study involving a misidentified arson to illustrate the profound impact of initial biases.

 Learn about his diverse experiences, from consulting on criminal defense and civil cases to setting up forensic labs in the Cayman Islands. His unique perspective, having worked on both sides of the courtroom, offers an unparalleled look into the complexities of forensic investigations.

Discover the importance of re-evaluating evidence with fresh eyes and the necessity for investigators to remain open-minded when new information challenges initial conclusions. This episode serves as a sobering reminder of the need for vigilance and objectivity in ensuring justice is served.

We also dive into the essential but often overlooked topic of quality assurance in fire investigations. David shares insights on the challenges faced by smaller forensic companies in maintaining rigorous standards and the importance of effective peer review to prevent miscarriages of justice. From the intricacies of forensic science codes and ISO standards to the practical issues of evidence disclosure, we explore how transparency and efficiency in sharing digital evidence can make or break a case. Tune in for a comprehensive exploration of the multi-faceted world of fire investigation and forensic science, guaranteed to leave you with a deeper appreciation of the field's complexities and responsibilities.

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