Two governors, a Florida Republican and a California Democrat, go head to head on which model of governance is right for America. Might DeSantis's performance help his 2024 candidacy, and is Newsom running a shadow presidential campaign, despite his denials? Plus, the House expels indicted New York Rep. George Santos, but what precedent does this set in a polarized age?

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The Debate Between Ron DeSantis and Gavin Newsom

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The GOP's presidential candidate is convicted of 34 felonies in New York, for falsifying business records in connection with 2016 hush money to Stormy Daniels. Could Trump's defense team have done anything differently? How serious are his prospects for appeal? Has Joe Biden already said too much about the trial? And how is this verdict likely to affect the 2024 election?

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The Jury Finds Donald Trump Guilty. What Now?

In a letter to two Senators, Justice Samuel Alito explained why he is obliged to hear cases related to Donald Trump under the Supreme Court's code of conduct. What's behind the campaign to tarnish the reputations of the conservative members of the Court? Plus, 14 pro-democracy activists are convicted by a Hong Kong court under trumped up national security charges.

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Conservative Supreme Court Justices Fight Calls for Recusal

The former Republican governor of Maryland left office with sky-high approval, and if Larry Hogan can now win a Senate seat with a centrist pitch, it would upset expectations about party control after the 2024 elections. Plus, Texas Gov. Greg Abbott declares victory after the state's GOP primary runoffs, saying he has won enough votes in the Legislature to pass his school-choice plan.

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Can Larry Hogan Save the Senate Filibuster in Maryland?

In a 6-3 ruling, the Supreme Court upholds a U.S. House map in South Carolina that was challenged as a racial gerrymander, with an opinion by Justice Samuel Alito that also explains the high bar for future lawsuits to prove that a map was drawn using race. Plus, why is the EPA giving millions of dollars to a "climate justice" group with left-leaning views on capitalism and Palestine? 

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Justice Alito's Majority Opinion on Racial Gerrymandering

The International Court of Justice, part of the United Nations, issues a ruling that seemingly tells Israel to halt its operations in Rafah. But will this ruling carry any weight, and what about the Oct. 7 hostages still held by Hamas? Plus, the latest alleged scandal at the Supreme Court is that Justice Samuel Alito's vacation home flew a historical flag that dates to the Revolutionary War.

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The Debate Between Ron DeSantis and Gavin Newsom

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