The Edge Podcast

Rob Montgomery is the CoFounder and CEO at InfiniFi Labs and Ken Deeter is General Partner at Electric Capital, who led InfiniFi's most recent round.

In this episode, we explore how InfiniFi is introducing duration matching to DeFi to unlock more sustainable, higher-yield opportunities for stablecoin holders, alongside insights from Electric Capital on the future of yield innovation.

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Timestamps

0:00 - Intro
5:22 - Rob’s background
7:10 - Ken’s background and Electric Capital
9:59 - How does DeFi mature beyond degen games?
13:53 - What is fractional reserve banking?
16:01 - Automating fractional reserve banking with InfiniFi
18:50 - The need for more duration assets in DeFi
24:44 - Sponsor break
25:25 - Where InfiniFi yield comes from
30:30 - InfiniFi vs traditional banks
37:10 - DeFi needs to take bigger swings at bigger ideas
40:53 - Why Electric invested in InfiniFi and teams like it
43:55 - Sponsor break
45:34 - Who is InfiniFi built for?
49:49 - The opportunity for InfiniFi to work with RWAs
52:44 - The growing need to simplify exposure to yields
56:06 - Closing

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🔗 Guest Links 🔗

► InfiniFi website: https://infinifi.xyz/
► InfiniFi on X: https://x.com/infinifilabs
► Rob on X: https://x.com/RobAnon94
► Ken on X: https://x.com/Puntium

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All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions. Podcast guests and hosts may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. DeFi Dad, Nomatic, and Electric Capital are all invested in InfiniFi. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

This episode comes from a recent panel discussion hosted by the DeFi team at GAIB. We were joined by DeFi experts such as Patrick, Founder of Dynamo DeFi, an anonymous DeFi investor who goes by DeFiMaximalist, and crypto YouTuber / investor Joe Takayama. We found the discussion to be very insightful and so we agreed to edit and republish the conversation as a podcast. We hope you enjoy it!

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Timestamps

0:00 - Intro
1:51 - Which DeFi teams are doing the best competing for liquidity and mindshare?
6:11 - Sponsor break
9:07 - Dynamo DeFi on choosing one stablecoin over another
11:45 - Joe Takayma on winning strategies for growing stablecoins
14:10 - DeFi Dad on the best real yields onchain
18:55 - Nomatic on the importance of mechanism design for sustainable yields
21:56 - Joe Takayama on lack of transparency holding back stablecoin growth
24:54 - Dynamo DeFi’s biggest concerns for stablecoin farming
26:43 - DeFi Dad on risk-minimized stablecoin lending to Aave, Fluid, and Pendle
29:52 - Sponsor break
32:07 - What factors will attract institutions to DeFi?
45:56 - Closing on new DeFi opportunity to tokenize exposure to AI sector

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🔗 Guest Links 🔗

► GAIB website: https://www.gaib.ai/
► GAIB on X: https://x.com/gaib_ai
► Patrick on X: https://x.com/patfscott
► Joe Takayama on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Joe_bitcoin
► DeFiMaximalist on X: https://x.com/lstmaximalist

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All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions. Podcast guests and hosts may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Benjamin is the Founder of cap.

In this episode, we dive into how Cap aims to unlock a new era of scalable stablecoin yield generation on Ethereum and MegaETH, by tapping into competitive markets and institutional players like Susquehanna, Franklin Templeton, and potentially DeFi powerhouses like Ethena and Maker.

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Timestamps

0:00 - Intro
4:07 - Origin of cap
6:47 - Stablecoin functions, settlement for fiat vs SoV
9:12 - What are Type I stablecoins?
12:43 - Risk of regulation for Type I stablecoins
13:45 - What are Type II stablecoins?
19:38 - What makes cap the first ever Type III stablecoin?
23:25 - Sponsor break
24:03 - Walkthrough of minting cUSD to yield aggregation
28:33 - Estimating range of yield for cUSD
32:53 - Comparing risk of cap Type III stablecoins vs Type I or II
33:57 - EigenLayer slashing will be live for cap’s launch
35:39 - What happens if a cap operator yield strategy is exploited?
38:52 - Why Susquehanna and Franklin Templeton onboarded with cap
41:33 - How are cap operators selected?
43:27 - The importance of restakers in cap and proving EigenLayer’s potential
48:56 - How cUSD yield is distributed
50:39 - Sponsor break
52:18 - Why deploy on MegaETH and Ethereum
54:22 - What does the name cap stand for?
55:33 - cap is built to cooperate, not compete with Ethena/Maker
57:49 - Idle stablecoins in cap will go to Aave
58:52 - Impeccable timing and demand for cap design
1:01:33 - Early details on cap tokenomics
1:02:46 - Closing

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🔗 Guest Links 🔗

► cap website: https://cap.app/
► cap on X: https://x.com/capmoney_
► Benjamin on X: https://x.com/Benjamin918_
► Type III Stablecoins in Stanford Blockchain Review: https://review.stanfordblockchain.xyz/p/69-type-iii-stablecoins

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All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions. Podcast guests and hosts may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Jason Zhao is the CoFounder at Story Protocol.

In this episode, we explore how Story Protocol aims to turn IP (intellectual property) into programmable, onchain assets, enabling creators and even AI agents, to register, protect, and license IP more efficiently.

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Timestamps

0:00 - Intro
5:38 - Jason’s background + founding Story
15:49 - Why blockchain is essential to Story markets for IP?
19:37 - Sponsor break
20:14 - How David Goyer behind The Dark Knight Trilogy is using Story
26:13 - Pitching Story to Hollywood creators
29:02 - How UGC could benefit from Story
34:15 - How we as podcast creators could use Story
38:22 - Sponsor break
39:18 - How the adult film industry might use Story
44:33 - Challenges of launching a token
47:50 - Closing + Story IP Portal

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🔗 Guest Links 🔗

► Story website: https://www.story.foundation/
► Story on X: https://x.com/StoryProtocol
► Jason on X: https://x.com/jasonjzhao

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If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/

All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Amir Forouzani is the CoFounder and CEO at Puffer Labs.

In this episode, we unpack why Ethereum builders according to Amir, remain heads-down focused on building, how based rollups like Puffer UniFi could unlock a simpler UX across all rollups on Ethereum, and what’s coming this year to boost Ethereum/ETH’s fundamentals.

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🧪 MANTLE | START YOUR RESTAKING JOURNEY TODAY WITH CMETH

🌔 MOONWELL | THE LEADING LENDING AND BORROWING APP ON BASE

⚙️ GEARBOX PROTOCOL | ONCHAIN LENDING REIMAGINED

📈 DEFINITIVE | THE MOST ADVANCED PLATFORM FOR ONCHAIN TRADE EXECUTION

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Timestamps

0:00 - Intro
5:35 - What are Ethereum’s strengths according to builders?
8:25 - Why should investors be excited about ETH the asset?
11:17 - How Puffer products fit into Ethereum’s roadmap
13:52 - Major improvements to Ethereum’s UX about to be realized
16:58 - What it means when we say “based rollup”
20:01 - How will we gain access to apps via based rollups?
22:42 - Sponsor break
23:20 - What would a naysayer say about based rollups?
25:36 - Anticipated advantages for based rollups users
29:14 - Overview of L1 scaling, Pectra upgrade and blob space
34:06 - Sponsor break
35:04 - vePUFFER governance and onchain incentives with CARROT
40:25 - What keeps Ethereum builders bullish despite CT?
42:15 - Closing

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🔗 Guest Links 🔗

► Puffer website: https://puffer.fi/
► Puffer UniFi website: https://unifi.puffer.fi/
► vePuffer staking: https://vote.puffer.fi/
► Puffer on X: https://x.com/puffer_finance
► Puffer UniFi on X: https://x.com/puffer_unifi
► Amir on X: https://x.com/amironchain

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If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/

All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. DeFi Dad is an investor in Puffer Finance and both DeFi Dad and Nomatic hold ETH. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Dr. Redouane Elkamhi is Economics Lead at GOAT Network.

In this episode, we explore how GOAT Network is pioneering a sustainable, real BTC yield by sharing sequencer revenue and BTC mining rewards with BTC and DOGE holders on a new multi-coin Proof-of-Stake network.

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► Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz
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► Learn DeFi: http://defidad.com/

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📊 iYIELD | YOUR FINANCIAL PICTURE, SIMPLIFIED

🧪 MANTLE | START YOUR RESTAKING JOURNEY TODAY WITH CMETH

🐡 PUFFER UNIFI | A BASED ROLLUP TO ETHEREUM WITH NATIVE YIELDS

🌔 MOONWELL | THE LEADING LENDING AND BORROWING APP ON BASE

⚙️ GEARBOX PROTOCOL | ONCHAIN LENDING REIMAGINED

📈 DEFINITIVE | THE MOST ADVANCED PLATFORM FOR ONCHAIN TRADE EXECUTION

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Timestamps

0:00 - Intro
0:47 - Origin of GOAT Network
10:15 - Sponsor break
12:26 - Sequencer revenue shared as a BTC yield
14:24 - How to get started earning on GOAT Network
22:21 - Differentiating from other BTC-centric networks
33:31 - Sponsor break
35:45 - Building a community to sustain BTC yield on GOAT Network
46:50 - Closing

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🔗 Guest Links 🔗

► GOAT Network website: https://www.goat.network/
► GOAT Network Rewards Dashboard: https://onepiece.goat.network/
► GOAT Network on X: https://x.com/GOATRollup

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If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/

All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Phil Fogel is the CoFounder and CEO at Cork Protocol.

In this episode, we explore how Cork enables a massive new cohort of DeFi users and crypto institutional investors to hedge against stablecoin and (re)staking token depegs, unlocking a new market for trading and earning through tokenized risk.

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► Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz
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📊 iYIELD | YOUR FINANCIAL PICTURE, SIMPLIFIED

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🧪 MANTLE | START YOUR RESTAKING JOURNEY TODAY WITH CMETH

🐡 PUFFER UNIFI | A BASED ROLLUP TO ETHEREUM WITH NATIVE YIELDS

🌔 MOONWELL | THE LEADING LENDING AND BORROWING APP ON BASE

⚙️ GEARBOX PROTOCOL | ONCHAIN LENDING REIMAGINED

📈 DEFINITIVE | THE MOST ADVANCED PLATFORM FOR ONCHAIN TRADE EXECUTION

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Timestamps

0:00 - Intro
5:49 - Phil’s background
11:44 - Why do we need depeg swaps and tokenized risk?
15:05 - The systemic risk of USDT and how Cork helps
18:31 - Example how Cork could have been used during Luna UST depeg
23:33 - Sponsor break
24:11 - What is risk premium and how do we think about it as Cork users?
25:38 - Who are key users and partners for Cork?
31:47 - Could pegged asset issuers use Cork themselves?
33:33 - Could Cork suffer from contagion during a depeg event?
36:41 - Sponsor break
38:19 - What if Ethena USDe had depegged worse during the Bybit hack?
41:16 - Is DeFi mature enough now for depeg swaps?
43:26 - How will Cork earn revenue?
44:53 - Roadmap for Cork
49:36 - Closing

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🔗 Guest Links 🔗

► Cork website: https://cork.tech/
► Cork on X: https://x.com/corkprotocol
► Phil on X: https://x.com/philfog

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If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/

All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Vivek Raman and Danny Ryan are the CoFounders of Etherealize.

In this episode, we speak with Etherealize about their highly touted team focused on marketing, business development, and product on behalf of Ethereum. Despite Ethereum's dominance as the most trusted and secure blockchain for DeFi, tokenization, and institutional adoption, ETH remains undervalued so we get right into the weeds about how they believe we can fix the disconnect between Ethereum the network and ETH the asset. Plus, we get an inside look at the conversations they're having about Ethereum/ETH with Wall Street investors and governments!

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► Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz
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📊 iYIELD | YOUR FINANCIAL PICTURE, SIMPLIFIED

🐐 GOAT NETWORK | A BITCOIN L2 TO EARN WITH BTC & DOGE

🧪 MANTLE | START YOUR RESTAKING JOURNEY TODAY WITH CMETH

🐡 PUFFER UNIFI | A BASED ROLLUP TO ETHEREUM WITH NATIVE YIELDS

🌔 MOONWELL | THE LEADING LENDING AND BORROWING APP ON BASE

⚙️ GEARBOX PROTOCOL | ONCHAIN LENDING REIMAGINED

📈 DEFINITIVE | THE MOST ADVANCED PLATFORM FOR ONCHAIN TRADE EXECUTION

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Timestamps

0:00 - Intro
6:18 - Origin of Etherealize and Vivek’s background
9:51 - Danny’s background
13:22 - How will Etherealize act on behalf of Ethereum
22:58 - Funding Etherealize with EF grant
29:01 - Sponsor break
29:39 - The OG EF strategy to ensure Ethereum eco is resilient
32:56 - What’s the day-to-day look like for Etherealize?
35:20 - Disconnect between ETH the asset vs Ethereum the network
39:47 - Significance of BlackRock BUIDL Fund choosing Ethereum
42:44 - Do we still believe L2 growth will lead to value accrual for ETH?
47:20 - Sponsor break
48:58 - Fragmentation narrative vs scaling a single blockchain
53:16 - The elevator pitch for ETH/Ethereum
56:50 - Buying ETH is buying into the backbone of civilization infra
59:19 - Closing

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🔗 Guest Links 🔗

► Etherealize website: https://www.etherealize.io/
► Etherealize on X: https://x.com/Etherealize_io
► Vivek on X: https://x.com/vivekventures
► Danny on X: https://x.com/dannyryan

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If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/

All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. DeFi Dad and Nomatic are both long time ETH holders. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Mikael is the Inventor of Gearbox, while Ivan and Ilgiz are Core Contributors to Gearbox.

In this episode, we explore how Gearbox is reimagining onchain lending with 10x credit, high-yield passive lending, and wallet-native credit accounts, unlocking seamless leverage and DeFi access for users.

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► Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz
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🧪 MANTLE | START YOUR RESTAKING JOURNEY TODAY WITH CMETH

🐡 PUFFER UNIFI | A BASED ROLLUP TO ETHEREUM WITH NATIVE YIELDS

🌔 MOONWELL | THE LEADING LENDING AND BORROWING APP ON BASE

📈 DEFINITIVE | THE MOST ADVANCED PLATFORM FOR ONCHAIN TRADE EXECUTION

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Timestamps
0:00 - Intro
1:10 - Founding Gearbox
2:05 - What is Gearbox?
3:03 - Sponsor break
5:47 - Gearbox’s evolution since launch
7:41 - Gearbox lending yields
10:41 - Gearbox farming and looping
14:19 - Thoughts on lending and credit onchain
18:12 - Why Gearbox lending rates tend to be higher
22:42 - Wallet native credit
30:02 - Sponsor break
31:52 Onboarding institutional players
33:04 - Final thoughts from Ivan
37:07 - Favorite yields on Gearbox
40:19 - Closing

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🔗 Guest Links 🔗
► Gearbox website: https://gearbox.fi/
► Gearbox on X: https://x.com/GearboxProtocol
► Ivan on X: https://x.com/ivangbi_
► Mikael on X: https://x.com/0xmikko_eth
► Ilgiz on X: https://x.com/apeir99n

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If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/
All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Gentleman James is the Founder of iYield and Adam Blumberg is the Founder of Interaxis, and VP at Enclave Group.

In this episode, we explore how applying a financial planning mindset to crypto can help investors manage wealth, navigate market cycles, and prepare for a future dominated by onchain finance.

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Timestamps

0:00 - Intro
1:54 - James and iYield origin story
5:10 - Adam Blumberg’s origin story
8:38 - Sponsor break
11:22 - How clients interest in crypto has changed over the years
15:33 - Overview of iYield
21:25 - Sponsor break
22:02 - How do needs of the crypto wealthy differ from traditional wealth?
27:07 - How’s TradFi handling the crypto market drawdown?
31:25 - Planning what to do with crypto in case of death
33:47 - What will bring more TradFi clients onchain?
39:02 - Sponsor break
40:38 - How will AI affect financial planning?
49:46 - Closing

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If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/

All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.