The Epic Couple's Journey

Daniela (pronouns she/her/hers) and Shaun (he/his/him) talk about what happens when they experience desire and arousal when looking at other people outside of their relationship. They discuss how social conditioning and religion impact judgment and shame when it comes to being attracted to someone other than your partner.

Hear Daniela say, “You're not allowed to think about or look at or appreciate or feel anything in regards to anybody else other than your partner. And so there's a part of me that's like, you can't tell him that, like you're not allowed to think that it's a shame” when Shaun says, “I'd rather you tell me that you're attracted to somebody rather than not telling me because I know that attraction exists.” Tune in as Daniela and Shaun explore the effects of expressing their sexuality freely on their sex life.

Through Daniela and Shaun's conversation, think about what happens when you find yourself attracted to someone outside of your relationship. Consider how stifling your sexuality in some ways may stifle your sexuality in all ways.

Daniela (she/her/hers pronouns) and Shaun (he/his/him pronouns) explore the five stages of sexuality and how to restore them when sexual expression has been stunted.

Hear Shaun say, “I love having sex with you. It's probably my favorite thing in the world” while Daniela says, “It's pleasure and intimacy and connection taken to a sacred divine space.” Tune in as Daniela and Shaun talk about their erotic blueprints and how they express them together and individually.

Through Daniela and Shaun’s conversation think about your sexual history and how it impacts intimacy and connection with your partner. Consider how you both can play with the stages of sexuality in your relationship for healing, creativity and fun.

Daniela (prefers she/her/hers pronouns) and Shaun (prefers he/his/him pronouns) share what they each need from birthday celebrations while exploring both the burden and privilege of knowing and understanding each other’s triggers.

Shaun says, “All I can go on is the words you are saying. And if I want to dig deeper and understand my partner, it's probably best to dig deeper to know myself” while Daniela says, “I actually think space is one of the keys to being becoming an epic couple.” Tune in as Daniela and Shaun talk about what they do to keep the connection going in their relationship.

Through Daniela and Shaun’s conversation think about what pushes your partner’s buttons and brings them to their knees. Acknowledge what you know (and don’t) around how you can heal your partner’s inner wounds and insecurities to experience a deeper sense of intimacy in your relationship.

Daniela (prefers she/her/hers pronouns) and Shaun (prefers he/his/him pronouns) discuss the differences between desire—like wanting your partner—and arousal—when your genitals are engorged and how to unwire the myth that these two responses go together.

Hear Shaun say, “It would be best if I understood myself. I mean, that's what would lead me to better clarity and probably more happiness” while Daniela says, “You want to believe that arousal equals desire. That would be nice, wouldn't it? But it doesn't.” Tune in as Daniela and Shaun talk about people as full spectrum human beings capable of so much more outside of binary thinking.

Through Daniela and Shaun’s conversation consider how your body responds when your mind isn’t ready and how your mind may be filled with desire when your body isn’t aroused. Welcome awareness and acceptance of the beauty and complexity of your bodymind when it comes to sex, love, and relationships.

Daniela (prefers she/her/hers pronouns) and Shaun (prefers he/his/him pronouns) talk about their experiences getting together with other couples. When very little is shared with any authenticity, they talk about getting stuck in comparison instead of considering what it is they truly desire inside their relationship.

Hear Daniela ask, “What do you learn about relationships when you have the opportunity to sit and talk with other couples?” while Shaun says he has to have a sense of peace within himself to hear what it is he truly wants. He says, “You have to show up and be vulnerable even if you don't want to show up.” Tune in as Daniela and Shaun explore what it takes to get the momentum of sex and intimacy going in addition to how to stop it and move in another direction.

Through Daniela and Shaun’s conversation consider what it takes to get the momentum going in your relationship and if either one of you compare your relationship to others’. Begin to cultivate an understanding of your relationship as normal and each of you as worthy and deserving of love.

Daniela (prefers she/her/hers pronouns) and Shaun (prefers he/his/him pronouns) talk about recent blocks they’ve experienced to intimacy, connection, and sex. When family time, trauma, and work overshadow time and energy for their relationship, Daniela and Shaun go easy on themselves.

Hear Shaun say, “If I wake up on the wrong side of the bed, and I don't examine why I feel the way I'm feeling you or someone at work will say, ‘Hey, you're unhappy today,’ and it will become that” while Daniela says, “I hear us both saying we need something to anchor to so it’s okay to feel how we're feeling.” Tune in as Daniela and Shaun explore identifying, expressing and understanding the root of emotions in addition to how they each need different things to process their emotions.

Through Daniela and Shaun’s conversation consider what blocks cut off access to connection in your relationship and impact sex and intimacy between you. Begin to cultivate love and compassion while developing the skills to hold space for yourself and your partner.

Daniela (pronouns she/her/hers) shares her development of the Epic Couple’s Journey and asks Shaun (pronouns he/his/him) to reflect on various stages they’ve experienced together in their relationship.

Tune in as Daniela and Shaun talk about the similarities between Joseph Campbell’s hero’s journey, the heroine’s journey, and the epic couple’s journey.

Through Daniela and Shaun’s conversation consider whether your partner and you are ready to step into darkness for an opportunity to experience wholeness together. Notice the spaces in which healing and transformation could impact your life and your relationship for the better.

In this premiere episode of The Epic Couple's Journey, Daniela (pronouns she/her/hers) and Shaun (pronouns he/his/him) share various aspects of their identity to center how they approach their relationship as well as how they experience sex, love, safety, and belonging.

Hear Shaun say, "I want to be inclusive in my life, but I feel like I should already be there. Does that make sense?" while Daniela says, "It's easiest for me in our relationship to see this in play when I think about sexual intercourse where I feel like there's a constant fluidity.” Tune in as Daniela and Shaun explore sex, gender, gender expressions, sexual attraction, relationship style, and more while sharing how these pieces of their identity inform what they know, share and experience.

Through Daniela and Shaun’s conversation consider how your identity impacts how you love, if you feel loving and lovable, in addition to how confident you feel in relationships and how connected you feel during sex. Begin to look at who and what supports you to live as a full-spectrum human being capable of experiencing all of life.

Daniela and Shaun explore the last forty-five episodes of the Epic Couples Podcast (and a few that didn't get aired!) as they share their favorite moments and the ones that made them cringe. 



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Hear Shaun say, "My favorite one that we talked about was Low Risk Initiating and Midnight Sex, because I can replay that night in my head over and over again" while Daniela says, "Do The Opposite to Increase Emotional Intimacy...It's a more realistic version instead of 'lean in.' You want to lean out. You want to moonwalk backwards out of the situation." Tune is as Daniela and Shaun talk about how the podcast has documented their epic couple's journey over the last year.

Through Daniela and Shaun’s observance of the podcast's one-year anniversary consider the celebrations and gratitudes within your own relationship as venture on your own journey. Begin to look at what's made your relationship so great for the two of you.

What matters most to you?

Daniela and Shaun discuss what matters most in life in light of recent deaths in their family. While meeting with their life insurance agent, issues of worthiness and value come up and impact their relationship and the life they’ve created.

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Hear Daniela say, "There's a sense that money can buy you or give you whatever you're lacking, whatever it is you desire. It could buy you love. It could buy you sex. It could buy you a relationship” while Shaun says, “I’m no happier with money than when I was a teenager or when I was a 20-something with no money.” Tune in as Daniela and Shaun talk about going deeper to uncover what truly matters and makes them happy.

Through Daniela and Shaun’s discussion consider what matters most to you in your relationship and in your life. Begin to look at how living on the top floor or on the surface keeps you from co-creating an epic life together.