In this episode, Mary Conquest speaks with Pam Walaski, Senior Vice President of the American Society of Safety Professionals (ASSP), who uses her considerable experience to teach the next generation of HSE practitioners.

Pam shares her insightful views on the current state of safety education. She highlights the key gaps, limitations and challenges and explains which elements need to evolve.

Safety professionals will also learn about Pam’s personal journey from “safety cop” mentality to seeing workers as the solution rather than the problem. This mindset shift has significantly influenced her approach to safety education, and rapport, empathy, respect, and dignity are key themes in this compassionate interview.

Pam helps EHS professionals to stop thinking in terms of “right” and “wrong” and instead focus on learning, evolution and being open to change.

Pam recommends these online resources for Safety practitioners:

Safety Differently – Innovative and critical safety thinking

Human and Organizational Performance | HOP Hub

Authors recommended by Pam:

Todd Conklin, Sidney Dekker and Rosa Antonia Carrillo

Pam also suggests listening to these podcasts:

PreAccident Investigation

The Safety of Work

Pam Walaski on LinkedIn:

Pam Walaski, CSP, FASSP | LinkedIn

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