Kelsi and Trey discuss Wes Ball’s Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes as a successful adventure epic that thrills with its digital world-building and provokes with its subversive interrogations of the audience's relationship to Caesar. This is the 10th Apes installment and arguably one of the most ambitious of the 21st century; a compelling evolution conceptually and visually from its recent predecessors while also introducing audiences to a new set of characters with mysterious motivations–a true Apes movie that is in conversation with the radical 1968-73 films as Ball’s reinvention is unafraid to be a bit scathing in its commentary on fundamentalism and the white savior archetype.

(3:30) Non-Spoiler Reaction

(26:13) Timeline of the Apes Universe

(33:44) Spoilers Start (Prologue)

(34:30) World-building and Eagle Clan

(01:01:30) Adventure Epic and Raka

(01:10:00) Caesar Mythology

(01:30:08) White Savior Subversion

(01:46:15) Proximus and his Kingdom

(02:07:00) The Epilogue

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Kelsi and Trey explore the career of Ryan Gosling through his newest semi-successful film The Fall Guy and then arguably his best performance in The Nice Guys. Gosling's career has taken many turns; from an indie darling in Half Nelson, to a stoic angry stunt driver in Drive, to the dreams of stardom in La La Land, and maybe no better than last year with his satirical depiction of Ken. Gosling has worn many hats of different men and his depiction of a fragile man lying to himself about being a nice guy is certainly never better than in Shane Black's dark comedy.

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Kelsi and Trey finish off their anti-war series and begin their Emily Blunt discussion with the very thrilling and politically complicated Denis Villeneuve's Sicario. This is a technical masterclass on several fronts; with an imposing performance from Benicio Del Toro, stunning photography from Roger Deakins, and a brutal soundtrack from the late-great Jóhann Jóhannsson. However, while Sicario is a cinematic powerhouse, this episode explores the movie's challenge of paralleling a military state with drug cartels and how the film may have a difficult legacy because of underdeveloped subversions.

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Kelsi and Trey explore the convincing cinematic power of Luca Guadagnino’s Challengers. We also question the narrative’s internal logic with its character studies led by dynamic performances from Zendaya, Mike Faist, and (especially) Josh O’Connor. Then we discuss what makes Guadagnino’s films so compelling, from the bizarre technical motifs, the psychosexual tensions, the backdrop of historical significance, to the underdog qualities of his flawed characters. Most of his successful films blend cinematic thrills with alluring stories, and while Challengers is certainly thrilling (even hilarious in moments), we attempt to identify the unevenness of the film’s narrative that held us back from loving the movie.

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We discuss one of the greatest cinematic representations of apocalyptic realism in Alfonso Cuarón’s Children of Men. This anti-war parable is covered in historical imagery and dystopian symbolism; a film subverting cautionary tale tropes with one of the most disturbing call-to-action movies ever made. Cuarón provokes contemporary conversations about late capitalism, refugee crisis’, the global rise of authoritarianism, the loss of spirituality, all to help inform and develop the world of Children of Men that scarily resembles our reality.

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Kelsi and Trey discuss the divisive and widely misinterpreted Alex Garland's Men. This surrealist folk horror film uses conventions of the genre to explore the perpetual exploitation of women; depicting an absurd-level of imagery and symbolism specific to patriarchal mythology and the horror genre born out of it. Garland's Men, much like Jordan Peele's Get Out, self-examines its storytelling and provokes the audience to question how it historically accepts tropes and cliches that perpetuate and exploit stereotypes.

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Kelsi and Trey discuss the maze of Alex Garland's Ex Machina. We explore how this sci-fi puzzle tests the audience by provoking questions about constructs, consciousness, selective empathy, and who is guilty of exploiting the power of artificial intelligence. We also talk about Oscar Isaac's dance moves, Domhnall Gleeson's weirdo enegy, and Alicia Vikander's subversive performance.

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Kelsi and Trey explore the most emotionally compelling and gripping movie of 2023 in Anatomy of a Fall. The film is being interpreted as a courtroom thriller and a whodunit, but its subversive focus is on the societal pressures and expectations of women, mothers, monogamy—a brilliant interrogation of genre and constructs. Triet imposes imagination on the viewer, much like her lead character with autofiction; a twisty metacinematic commentary about pop-psychological thrillers that have used women as narrative tools. 4 hours of conversation on Patreon below!

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Kelsi and Trey explore the movie landscape of 2023 by ranking our 20 favorite movies! This episode doesn't have any major-spoilers and there are tons of recommendations from the year. Time stamps for part 2 of our ranking are below.

#10 (09:09)

#9 (21:09)

#8 (36:55)

#7 (44:35)

#6 (01:05:00)

#5 (01:14:15)

#4 (01:29:30)

#3 (01:41:37)

#2 (01:59:12)

#1 (02:08:32)

Recap of #20-1 (02:21:11)

Honorable Mentions (02:25:25)

The Holdovers (03:03:05)

American Fiction (03:15:00)

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