On this episode, Hannah Elliott and Matt Miller discuss what it's like to drive the first-ever 911 hybrid, the 2025 Porsche 911 Carrera GTS, and debate the merits of the expensive Mercedes-AMG SL63 versus the not-expensive Ford Mustang GT. Plus, reporter Max Chafkin joins to discuss his Businessweek feature on Rivian's roller-coaster ride as the anti-Tesla for EV lovers.

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