I talk to my version of Taylor Swift, Cleveland poet George Bilgere, whose writing and distinctive voice have influenced my post-sobriety writing (and parenting) more than anyone else. It's a time when a lot of new things come and go, and I want to figure out how to be okay with that.

Show notes:

Poetrytown.com

Georgebilgere.com

TSB story featuring George’s work. 

Writer’s Almanac Poems

“Cheap Motels of My Youth” featured on Rattle

In this episode:

00:38 Hello and Welcome

05:47 The interview begins

10:32 How to be light and dark, Tony Hoagland

18:50 "I forgot to say goodbye"

26:29 Thinking about death and other endings, Billy Collins

32:32 Children: Believe the hype! Grieving ahead of time

34:35 Sources of Inspiration, Bilgere as aberration, Diaper moments

40:45 How much should we micro-grieve?

52:06 Is this Home?

58:01 Preparing for the world