The Fourth Curtain

The Fourth Curtain

By Alexander Seropian & Aaron MarroquinLeisureVideo Games
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The Fourth Curtain episodes

  • Matt Booty's Boggling Domain

    President of Game Content and Studios for Microsoft's Xbox, Matt Booty manages many of the biggest video games in history - Minecraft, Halo, Elder Scrolls, Fallout. Starting as an audio designer at Midway he transitioned to studio management and beyond. We talk similarities with theater, tricky deadlines and the importance of communities this week. 

    Support the show

    Thank you for listening to our podcast all about videogames and the amazing people who bring them to life!
    Hosted by Alexander Seropian and Aaron Marroquin
    Find us at www.thefourthcurtain.com

    Join our Patreon for early, ad-free episodes plus bonus content at https://patreon.com/FourthCurtain

    Come join the conversation at https://discord.gg/KWeGE4xHfe
    Videos available at https://www.youtube.com/@thefourthcurtain
    Follow us on Twitter: @fourthcurtain
    Edited and mastered at https://noise-floor.com

    Audio Editor: Bryen Hensley
    Video Editor: Sarkis Grigorian
    Producer: Kimya Taheri
    Art: Paul Russel
    Community Manager: Doug Zartman
    Featuring Liberation by 505

    1 hr 4 min
  • Getting a Rise with Brian Fargo

    One time Olympic hopeful and leader-in-exile Brian Fargo is a true legend. He founded Interplay and inExile Entertainment. He’s made dozens of smash hit games like Wasteland, Battle Chess, Lost Vikings and Fallout. He’s now mastering time and space with the Newgate Clockwork Revolution. We talk sales shenanigans, AI and much more in this week’s episode.

    Support the show

    Thank you for listening to our podcast all about videogames and the amazing people who bring them to life!
    Hosted by Alexander Seropian and Aaron Marroquin
    Find us at www.thefourthcurtain.com

    Join our Patreon for early, ad-free episodes plus bonus content at https://patreon.com/FourthCurtain

    Come join the conversation at https://discord.gg/KWeGE4xHfe
    Videos available at https://www.youtube.com/@thefourthcurtain
    Follow us on Twitter: @fourthcurtain
    Edited and mastered at https://noise-floor.com

    Audio Editor: Bryen Hensley
    Video Editor: Sarkis Grigorian
    Producer: Kimya Taheri
    Art: Paul Russel
    Community Manager: Doug Zartman
    Featuring Liberation by 505

    1 hr 17 min
  • All Right the First Time with Jason Rubin

    Naughty Dog co-founder Jason Rubin made massive hits like Crash Bandicoot and Jak and Daxter before moving on to run THQ. Now he's building the metaverse at Meta. Lessons in business success and the future of technology in this week's episode!

    Support the show

    Thank you for listening to our podcast all about videogames and the amazing people who bring them to life!
    Hosted by Alexander Seropian and Aaron Marroquin
    Find us at www.thefourthcurtain.com

    Join our Patreon for early, ad-free episodes plus bonus content at https://patreon.com/FourthCurtain

    Come join the conversation at https://discord.gg/KWeGE4xHfe
    Videos available at https://www.youtube.com/@thefourthcurtain
    Follow us on Twitter: @fourthcurtain
    Edited and mastered at https://noise-floor.com

    Audio Editor: Bryen Hensley
    Video Editor: Sarkis Grigorian
    Producer: Kimya Taheri
    Art: Paul Russel
    Community Manager: Doug Zartman
    Featuring Liberation by 505

    1 hr 20 min
  • And the Winner is... Geoff Keighley!

    Creator and Host of The Game Awards, Geoff Keighley is possibly the most recognizable face in videogames. Starting as a teenage game reviewer he wrote for Time Magazine, Kotaku, and Fortune, then became a TV personality on Spike TV and G4TV. Now his Game Awards has a global audience of over 100 million viewers. He spoke with us about his origins and vision for the future of games.

    Support the show

    Thank you for listening to our podcast all about videogames and the amazing people who bring them to life!
    Hosted by Alexander Seropian and Aaron Marroquin
    Find us at www.thefourthcurtain.com

    Join our Patreon for early, ad-free episodes plus bonus content at https://patreon.com/FourthCurtain

    Come join the conversation at https://discord.gg/KWeGE4xHfe
    Videos available at https://www.youtube.com/@thefourthcurtain
    Follow us on Twitter: @fourthcurtain
    Edited and mastered at https://noise-floor.com

    Audio Editor: Bryen Hensley
    Video Editor: Sarkis Grigorian
    Producer: Kimya Taheri
    Art: Paul Russel
    Community Manager: Doug Zartman
    Featuring Liberation by 505

    1 hr 8 min
  • The Independent Mindset of Jonathan Blow

    IGF Design Award winner Jonathan Blow has made legendary games like Braid and The Witness by taking risks and making the hard decisions. Currently he's working on a new game with a homemade game engine (!) using a homemade programming language (!!), he tells tales of perseverance and putting in the reps for when opportunity knocks. 

    Support the show

    Thank you for listening to our podcast all about videogames and the amazing people who bring them to life!
    Hosted by Alexander Seropian and Aaron Marroquin
    Find us at www.thefourthcurtain.com

    Join our Patreon for early, ad-free episodes plus bonus content at https://patreon.com/FourthCurtain

    Come join the conversation at https://discord.gg/KWeGE4xHfe
    Videos available at https://www.youtube.com/@thefourthcurtain
    Follow us on Twitter: @fourthcurtain
    Edited and mastered at https://noise-floor.com

    Audio Editor: Bryen Hensley
    Video Editor: Sarkis Grigorian
    Producer: Kimya Taheri
    Art: Paul Russel
    Community Manager: Doug Zartman
    Featuring Liberation by 505

    1 hr 19 min
  • No One Says No to Ed Del Castillo

    Maker of Adventure Game of the Year "Desperate Housewives" Ed Del Castillo has made a couple other impactful games - Command and Conquer Red Alert, Battle Realms, Ultima IX. He invented box select in RTS games and revolutionized install screens. Tales of shaving icebergs and catching the froth in this week's The Fourth Curtain podcast.

    Support the show

    Thank you for listening to our podcast all about videogames and the amazing people who bring them to life!
    Hosted by Alexander Seropian and Aaron Marroquin
    Find us at www.thefourthcurtain.com

    Join our Patreon for early, ad-free episodes plus bonus content at https://patreon.com/FourthCurtain

    Come join the conversation at https://discord.gg/KWeGE4xHfe
    Videos available at https://www.youtube.com/@thefourthcurtain
    Follow us on Twitter: @fourthcurtain
    Edited and mastered at https://noise-floor.com

    Audio Editor: Bryen Hensley
    Video Editor: Sarkis Grigorian
    Producer: Kimya Taheri
    Art: Paul Russel
    Community Manager: Doug Zartman
    Featuring Liberation by 505

    1 hr 18 min
  • Brewing Up Mega Hits with Greg Zeschuk

    This week Alex and Aaron welcome the co-founder of Bioware, the makers of Baldur's Gate, Dragon Age, Mass Effect, Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic. They revolutionized RPG games. Without Greg - there's no Starfield. We hear stories from Bioware's formative years, the ride that led to their acquisition by Electronic Arts, working with Bono (yes, that Bono), lessons on venture capital vs. private equity and some love for very difficult games - all on this week's podcast.

    Also, check out what Greg's been up to: https://blindenthusiasm.ca/

    Support the show

    Thank you for listening to our podcast all about videogames and the amazing people who bring them to life!
    Hosted by Alexander Seropian and Aaron Marroquin
    Find us at www.thefourthcurtain.com

    Join our Patreon for early, ad-free episodes plus bonus content at https://patreon.com/FourthCurtain

    Come join the conversation at https://discord.gg/KWeGE4xHfe
    Videos available at https://www.youtube.com/@thefourthcurtain
    Follow us on Twitter: @fourthcurtain
    Edited and mastered at https://noise-floor.com

    Audio Editor: Bryen Hensley
    Video Editor: Sarkis Grigorian
    Producer: Kimya Taheri
    Art: Paul Russel
    Community Manager: Doug Zartman
    Featuring Liberation by 505

    1 hr 19 min
  • Christofer Sundberg Braves the Dangerous Waters

    Creator of the Just Cause and Mad Max games, three-time Chair of the Swedish Game Industry Assn., Christofer Sundberg has weathered some serious setbacks and come out on top. Now Founder and CCO at Liquid Swords he's busy opening worlds for gamers everywhere.

    Support the show

    Thank you for listening to our podcast all about videogames and the amazing people who bring them to life!
    Hosted by Alexander Seropian and Aaron Marroquin
    Find us at www.thefourthcurtain.com

    Join our Patreon for early, ad-free episodes plus bonus content at https://patreon.com/FourthCurtain

    Come join the conversation at https://discord.gg/KWeGE4xHfe
    Videos available at https://www.youtube.com/@thefourthcurtain
    Follow us on Twitter: @fourthcurtain
    Edited and mastered at https://noise-floor.com

    Audio Editor: Bryen Hensley
    Video Editor: Sarkis Grigorian
    Producer: Kimya Taheri
    Art: Paul Russel
    Community Manager: Doug Zartman
    Featuring Liberation by 505

    1 hr 7 min
  • Keeping Your Eye on the Ball with Eugene Jarvis

    Sure, Defender, Smash TV, Narc and Cruis’n were huge games, but this man helped usher in multi-ball! Pinball pioneer turned arcade cabinet rock star Eugene Jarvis joins us with stories about transitions and triumphs.

    Support the show

    Thank you for listening to our podcast all about videogames and the amazing people who bring them to life!
    Hosted by Alexander Seropian and Aaron Marroquin
    Find us at www.thefourthcurtain.com

    Join our Patreon for early, ad-free episodes plus bonus content at https://patreon.com/FourthCurtain

    Come join the conversation at https://discord.gg/KWeGE4xHfe
    Videos available at https://www.youtube.com/@thefourthcurtain
    Follow us on Twitter: @fourthcurtain
    Edited and mastered at https://noise-floor.com

    Audio Editor: Bryen Hensley
    Video Editor: Sarkis Grigorian
    Producer: Kimya Taheri
    Art: Paul Russel
    Community Manager: Doug Zartman
    Featuring Liberation by 505

    1 hr 18 min
  • The Intelli Vision of Don Daglow

    There's OG game devs, and then there's the Elder Gods of game dev, creators from time out of mind. Our guest Don Daglow's games started appearing on mainframes in 1971, before there were MONITORS. Credited with inventing both sim games and god games, he has bonkers stories about the birth of our craft. 

    Support the show

    Thank you for listening to our podcast all about videogames and the amazing people who bring them to life!
    Hosted by Alexander Seropian and Aaron Marroquin
    Find us at www.thefourthcurtain.com

    Join our Patreon for early, ad-free episodes plus bonus content at https://patreon.com/FourthCurtain

    Come join the conversation at https://discord.gg/KWeGE4xHfe
    Videos available at https://www.youtube.com/@thefourthcurtain
    Follow us on Twitter: @fourthcurtain
    Edited and mastered at https://noise-floor.com

    Audio Editor: Bryen Hensley
    Video Editor: Sarkis Grigorian
    Producer: Kimya Taheri
    Art: Paul Russel
    Community Manager: Doug Zartman
    Featuring Liberation by 505

    1 hr 20 min

About The Fourth Curtain

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A GUIDED TOUR OF VIDEOGAME MAKERY! Hosts Alex Seropian (founder Bungie, Wideload, Industrial Toys) and Aaron Marroquin (Art Director, Game Designer, part time magician) take you on a tour of the…

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