Beth Redman says, “I choose to surrender because I as a human don’t know how to make this better, so I surrender to a God who does.” Toni and Beth also discuss deconstruction in a really honoring and beautiful way. If that’s something you’re battling with, Beth has some grace, scripture, and strategy for you in this conversation. She’s a great worshiper – not because of the songs she and her husband Matt write, but because she chooses to worship God in the secret places. Oooh, this one’s good.

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