The Grading Podcast

The Grading Podcast

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The Grading Podcast episodes

  • 51 - Reflecting on Standards-Based Grading with Joe Zeccola and Ashleigh Fox

    In this episode, Joe Zeccola and Dr. Ashleigh Fox join Sharona and Bosley as we look at a critique of standards-based grading written from someone in the trenches, already working in alternative grading. We discuss many of the main points of the article as a way of self-reflecting on our practices as we explore this world of alternative grading.

    Links

    Please note - any books linked here are likely Amazon Associates links. Clicking on them and purchasing through them helps support the show. Thanks for your support!

    • We Need to Talk About Standards-Based Grading, Grow Beyond Grades Blog
    • Effects of no feedback, task-related comments, and grades on intrinsic motivation and performance. Butler, R. and Nisan, M. 1986, Journal of Educational Psychology

    Previous Episodes for Joe Zeccola:

    • Episode 6 - The Anatomy of a Learning Outcome
    • Episode 13 - Interim Grades
    • Episode 39 - Systemic Change

    Previous Episodes for Ashleigh Fox

    • Episode 15 - Alternative Grading as a Classroom Practice and a Dissertation Topic

    Resources

    The Grading Conference - an annual, online conference exploring Alternative Grading in Higher Education & K-12.

    Some great resources to educate yourself about Alternative Grading:

    • The Grading for Growth Blog
    • The Grading Conference
    • The Intentional Academia Blog

    Recommended Books on Alternative Grading (Please note - any books linked here are likely Amazon Associates links. Purchasing through them helps support the show. Thanks for your support!):

    • Grading for Growth, by Robert Talbert and David Clark
    • Specifications Grading, by Linda Nilsen
    • Undoing the Grade, by Jesse Stommel
    • Grading for Equity, by Joe Feldman

    The Grading Podcast publishes every week on Tuesday at 4 AM Pacific time, so be sure to subscribe and get notified of each new episode. You can follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram - @thegradingpod. To leave us a comment, please go to our website: www.thegradingpod.com and leave a comment on this episode's page.

    If you would like to be considered to be a guest on this show, please reach out using the Contact Us form on our website, www.thegradingpod.com.

    All content of this podcast and website are solely the opinions of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily represent the views of California State University Los Angeles or the Los Angeles Unified School District.

    Music

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    1 hr 2 min
  • 50 - How we quadrupled our pass rate: Lessons learned from Redesigning Precalculus, An Interview with Dr. Latrice Bowman

    In this episode, Sharona and Bosley speak with Dr. Latrice Bowman, a mathematics faculty member from the University of Alaska, Fairbanks. Latrice took the MAA OPEN intensive training on redesigning a course to use alternative grading and is back to talk about her first two times running the redesigned course. She shares lessons learned and changes made. We talk about reducing the number of learning outcomes, progress tracking, students conferences and so much more. Oh - and the result? A quadrupling of the pass rate from pre-calculus through first semester calculus.This is another great example of the process of course redesign.

    Links

    Please note - any books linked here are likely Amazon Associates links. Clicking on them and purchasing through them helps support the show. Thanks for your support!

    • MAA OPEN Math Project

    Resources

    The Grading Conference - an annual, online conference exploring Alternative Grading in Higher Education & K-12.

    Some great resources to educate yourself about Alternative Grading:

    • The Grading for Growth Blog
    • The Grading Conference
    • The Intentional Academia Blog

    Recommended Books on Alternative Grading (Please note - any books linked here are likely Amazon Associates links. Purchasing through them helps support the show. Thanks for your support!):

    • Grading for Growth, by Robert Talbert and David Clark
    • Specifications Grading, by Linda Nilsen
    • Undoing the Grade, by Jesse Stommel
    • Grading for Equity, by Joe Feldman

    The Grading Podcast publishes every week on Tuesday at 4 AM Pacific time, so be sure to subscribe and get notified of each new episode. You can follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram - @thegradingpod. To leave us a comment, please go to our website: www.thegradingpod.com and leave a comment on this episode's page.

    If you would like to be considered to be a guest on this show, please reach out using the Contact Us form on our website, www.thegradingpod.com.

    All content of this podcast and website are solely the opinions of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily represent the views of California State University Los Angeles or the Los Angeles Unified School District.

    Music

    Country Rock performed by Lite Saturation

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    1 hr 2 min
  • 49 - Teaching and Assessing Writing - Ungrading, AI and a LOT of Rethinking: an Interview with Emily Pitts Donahoe

    In this episode, Sharona and Bosley talk with Dr. Emily Pitts Donahoe about teaching writing in a world where ungrading is the system and AI exists. Emily is the Associate Director of Instruction Support at the Center for Excellence in Teaching and Learning as well as a lecturer in writing and rhetoric at the University of Mississippi. She is also one of the organizers of the 2024 Grading Conference. This conversation explores some of the research on grades and motivation, and then continues our exploration into the new thinking that many of us in the alt grading world are doing as we consider the impact of generative AI models on our courses. What is the purpose of teaching writing if an AI can do most of the things we need writing for? (Or can it?)

    From helping our students find purpose in our classes to rethinking the types of writing and assignments we give, join us as we continue the conversation about authentic assessments, grades, and the impact of AI.

    Links

    Please note - any books linked here are likely Amazon Associates links. Clicking on them and purchasing through them helps support the show. Thanks for your support!

    • Grades Can Hinder Learning: What Should Professors Use Instead, Becky Supiano
    • Effects of No Feedback, Task-Related Comments, and Grades on Intrinsic Motivation and Performance, Ruth Butler and Mordecai Nisan (PDF download)
    • Unmaking the Grade, a blog by Emily Pitts Donahoe
    • A start/stop/continue for the Ungrading Community, Grading for Growth Blog
    • Visible Learning: The Sequel, John Hattie
    • Prompt Engineering Specialization, course on prompt engineering from Vanderbuilt University delivered via Coursera

    Resources

    The Grading Conference - an annual, online conference exploring Alternative Grading in Higher Education & K-12.

    Some great resources to educate yourself about Alternative Grading:

    • The Grading for Growth Blog
    • The Grading Conference
    • The Intentional Academia Blog

    Recommended Books on Alternative Grading (Please note - any books linked here are likely Amazon Associates links. Purchasing through them helps support the show. Thanks for your support!):

    • Grading for Growth, by Robert Talbert and David Clark
    • Specifications Grading, by Linda Nilsen
    • Undoing the Grade, by Jesse Stommel
    • Grading for Equity, by Joe Feldman

    The Grading Podcast publishes every week on Tuesday at 4 AM Pacific time, so be sure to subscribe and get notified of each new episode. You can follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram - @thegradingpod. To leave us a comment, please go to our website: www.thegradingpod.com and leave a comment on this episode's page.

    If you would like to be considered to be a guest on this show, please reach out using the Contact Us form on our website, www.thegradingpod.com.

    All content of this podcast and website are solely the opinions of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily represent the views of California State University Los Angeles or the Los Angeles Unified School District.

    Music

    Country Rock performed by Lite Saturation

    Country Rock by Lite Saturation is licensed under a Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International License.

    1 hr 1 min
  • 48 - Implementation Challenges and Opportunities: A Conversation with Becky Peppler and Don Smith on Working with K-12 School Districts to implement Alternative Grading

    In this episode we talk with Becky Peppler and Don Smith from First Educational Resources, an organization dedicated to providing K-12 school districts in North America with affordable options for professional learning to support social emotional learning, instructional coaching, professional learning communities, and grading reform efforts. We discuss their experiences with supporting grading reform efforts in thousands of districts across North America, the challenges, the opportunities, and where we go from here. We also talk about the STAGR center and conference. STAGR stands for "Standards, Targets, Assessment, Grading, and Reporting". The STAGR conference, a 1-day virtual event held twice a year, provides a platform for K-12 educators to come together to understand the landscape of grading reform, identify strategies that reduce complexity and enhance understanding of reform efforts, and work to implement effective changes to grading systems.

    Links

    Please note - any books linked here are likely Amazon Associates links. Clicking on them and purchasing through them helps support the show. Thanks for your support!

    • The STAGR Conference
    • Extinguishing the Fires within Assessment and Grading Reform, Garth Larson, Becky Peppler, Don Smith, and Matt Townsley
    • Fair Isn't Always Equal: Assessment and Grading in the Differentiated Classroom, Rick Wormeli
    • Learning by Doing: A Handbook for Professional Learning Communities at Work (An Actionable Guide to Implementing the PLC Process and Effective Teaching Methods), Richard DuFour
    • College Bridge
    • Repair Kit for Grading: (3rd Edition) 15 Fixes for Broken Grades with Discussion and Repair Guide, Ken O'Connor and Rick Wormeli

    Resources

    The Grading Conference - an annual, online conference exploring Alternative Grading in Higher Education & K-12.

    Some great resources to educate yourself about Alternative Grading:

    • The Grading for Growth Blog
    • The Grading Conference
    • The Intentional Academia Blog

    Recommended Books on Alternative Grading (Please note - any books linked here are likely Amazon Associates links. Purchasing through them helps support the show. Thanks for your support!):

    • Grading for Growth, by Robert Talbert and David Clark
    • Specifications Grading, by Linda Nilsen
    • Undoing the Grade, by Jesse Stommel
    • Grading for Equity, by Joe Feldman

    The Grading Podcast publishes every week on Tuesday at 4 AM Pacific time, so be sure to subscribe and get notified of each new episode. You can follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram - @thegradingpod. To leave us a comment, please go to our website: www.thegradingpod.com and leave a comment on this episode's page.

    If you would like to be considered to be a guest on this show, please reach out using the Contact Us form on our website, www.thegradingpod.com.

    All content of this podcast and website are solely the opinions of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily represent the views of California State University Los Angeles or the Los Angeles Unified School District.

    Music

    Country Rock performed by Lite Saturation

    Country Rock by Lite Saturation is licensed under a Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International License.

    1 hr 3 min
  • 47 - Taking Alternative Grading With You: An Interview with Dr. Rachel Weir

    In this episode we talk with Dr. Rachel Weir. Dr. Weir is a Professor of Mathematics at Allegheny College in Meadville, PA. She has been the Director of Faculty Development at Allegheny College for the past few years and is currently (as of when this episode was recorded) the new interim Associate Provost at Allegheny College. We talk with Rachel about her journey into alternative grading, how that has impacted her work as the Director of Faculty Development and how she is thinking about the impact of alternative grading from the perspective of her new job as Interim Associate Provost.

    Links

    Please note - any books linked here are likely Amazon Associates links. Clicking on them and purchasing through them helps support the show. Thanks for your support!

    • Allegheny College in Meadville, PA
    • MAA Mathfest (Mathematical Association of America)
    • The Academy of Inquiry Based Learning
    • Ungrading, by Susan D. Blum
    • Acutec Precision Aerospace
    • Living Proof: Stories of Resilience Along the Mathematical Journey

    Resources

    The Grading Conference - an annual, online conference exploring Alternative Grading in Higher Education & K-12.

    Some great resources to educate yourself about Alternative Grading:

    • The Grading for Growth Blog
    • The Grading Conference
    • The Intentional Academia Blog

    Recommended Books on Alternative Grading (Please note - any books linked here are likely Amazon Associates links. Purchasing through them helps support the show. Thanks for your support!):

    • Grading for Growth, by Robert Talbert and David Clark
    • Specifications Grading, by Linda Nilsen
    • Undoing the Grade, by Jesse Stommel
    • Grading for Equity, by Joe Feldman

    The Grading Podcast publishes every week on Tuesday at 4 AM Pacific time, so be sure to subscribe and get notified of each new episode. You can follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram - @thegradingpod. To leave us a comment, please go to our website: www.thegradingpod.com and leave a comment on this episode's page.

    If you would like to be considered to be a guest on this show, please reach out using the Contact Us form on our website, www.thegradingpod.com.

    All content of this podcast and website are solely the opinions of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily represent the views of California State University Los Angeles or the Los Angeles Unified School District.

    Music

    Country Rock performed by Lite Saturation

    Country Rock by Lite Saturation is licensed under a Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International License.

    52 min
  • 46 - Extinguishing the Fires within Assessment and Grading Reform: Welcoming Back Dr. Matt Townsley

    On this episode we welcome back the "sportscaster" of Alternative Grading, Dr. Matt Townsley, to talk about his new book Extinguishing the Fires within Assessment and Grading Reform. As Alternative Grading practices grow and take shape throughout the United States, efforts to resist these reforms are also growing. This incredible new book offers practical guidance to navigating the complexities of transitioning to alternative grading architectures and how to address the seemingly inevitable pushback that many of us are now experiencing. Based on the lived experiences of the authors, this book is a MUST READ for anyone concerned about advocating for grading reform.

    Links

    Please note - any books linked here are likely Amazon Associates links. Clicking on them and purchasing through them helps support the show. Thanks for your support!

    • Extinguishing the Fires Within Assessment and Grading Reform, Garth Larson, Becky Peppler, Don Smith, Matt Townsley.

    Resources

    The Grading Conference - an annual, online conference exploring Alternative Grading in Higher Education & K-12.

    Some great resources to educate yourself about Alternative Grading:

    • The Grading for Growth Blog
    • The Grading Conference
    • The Intentional Academia Blog

    Recommended Books on Alternative Grading (Please note - any books linked here are likely Amazon Associates links. Purchasing through them helps support the show. Thanks for your support!):

    • Grading for Growth, by Robert Talbert and David Clark
    • Specifications Grading, by Linda Nilsen
    • Undoing the Grade, by Jesse Stommel
    • Grading for Equity, by Joe Feldman

    The Grading Podcast publishes every week on Tuesday at 4 AM Pacific time, so be sure to subscribe and get notified of each new episode. You can follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram - @thegradingpod. To leave us a comment, please go to our website: www.thegradingpod.com and leave a comment on this episode's page.

    If you would like to be considered to be a guest on this show, please reach out using the Contact Us form on our website, www.thegradingpod.com.

    All content of this podcast and website are solely the opinions of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily represent the views of California State University Los Angeles or the Los Angeles Unified School District.

    Music

    Country Rock performed by Lite Saturation

    Country Rock by Lite Saturation is licensed under a Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International License.

    58 min
  • 45 - Exploring the schedule for the 2024 Grading Conference

    Join us as we explore some of the sessions at the upcoming Grading Conference! Sharona and Bosley share some details of the newly released schedule for the Grading Conference, as well as discuss which ones they would really like to attend.

    Links

    Please note - any books linked here are likely Amazon Associates links. Clicking on them and purchasing through them helps support the show. Thanks for your support!

    • The Grading Conference

    Resources

    The Grading Conference - an annual, online conference exploring Alternative Grading in Higher Education & K-12.

    Some great resources to educate yourself about Alternative Grading:

    • The Grading for Growth Blog
    • The Grading Conference
    • The Intentional Academia Blog

    Recommended Books on Alternative Grading (Please note - any books linked here are likely Amazon Associates links. Purchasing through them helps support the show. Thanks for your support!):

    • Grading for Growth, by Robert Talbert and David Clark
    • Specifications Grading, by Linda Nilsen
    • Undoing the Grade, by Jesse Stommel
    • Grading for Equity, by Joe Feldman

    The Grading Podcast publishes every week on Tuesday at 4 AM Pacific time, so be sure to subscribe and get notified of each new episode. You can follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram - @thegradingpod. To leave us a comment, please go to our website: www.thegradingpod.com and leave a comment on this episode's page.

    If you would like to be considered to be a guest on this show, please reach out using the Contact Us form on our website, www.thegradingpod.com.

    All content of this podcast and website are solely the opinions of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily represent the views of California State University Los Angeles or the Los Angeles Unified School District.

    Music

    Country Rock performed by Lite Saturation

    Country Rock by Lite Saturation is licensed under a Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International License.

    51 min
  • 44 - Artificial Intelligence And Alt Grading: Challenges and Opportunities

    If you base your grades on "authentic assessment of student work", then what do you do when technology catches up to the point where AI can do BETTER work than your students? And what about AI that can help the instructor do better work? Better feedback, easier workloads?

    In this episode, Sharona and Bosley share some initial thoughts and resources on how AI is going to impact the Alt Grading world. Come help start the conversation about authentic assessment and look at the potential benefits of AI as well.

    Links

    Please note - any books linked here are likely Amazon Associates links. Clicking on them and purchasing through them helps support the show. Thanks for your support!

    • Teaching with AI: A Practical Guide to a New Era of Human Learning, by José Antonio Bowen and C. Edward Watson
    • Thinking With and About AI - Episode 517 of the Teaching in Higher Ed podcast, with C. Edward Watson
    • AI Teaching Assistant Pro - an AI powered app for instructors
    • AI Tutor Pro - an AI powered app for students
    • Bloom's Taxonomy - a guide by the Vanderbuilt University Center for Teaching
    • How to Use Norman Webb's Depth of Knowledge Framework
    • Chat GPT 3.5
    • Prompt Engineering - Get better results from large language models
    • GPT 3.5 vs GPT 4: Biggest Differences to Consider
    • American Association of Colleges and Universities: Essential Learning Outcomes
    • Khanmigo by Khan Academy
    • NCTM Position Statement on AI
    • The Homework Apocalypse (Great Prompts in this article)
    • AI Education and AI in Education - from the National Science Foundation
    • Update Your Course Syllabus for chatGPT
    • From AI to A+: Prepare Your Students for Using ChatGPT and other AI
    • Machine Learning and the Five Big Ideas in AI

    Resources

    The Grading Conference - an annual, online conference exploring Alternative Grading in Higher Education & K-12.

    Some great resources to educate yourself about Alternative Grading:

    • The Grading for Growth Blog
    • The Grading Conference
    • The Intentional Academia Blog

    Recommended Books on Alternative Grading (Please note - any books linked here are likely Amazon Associates links. Purchasing through them helps support the show. Thanks for your support!):

    • Grading for Growth, by Robert Talbert and David Clark
    • Specifications Grading, by Linda Nilsen
    • Undoing the Grade, by Jesse Stommel
    • Grading for Equity, by Joe Feldman

    The Grading Podcast publishes every week on Tuesday at 4 AM Pacific time, so be sure to subscribe and get notified of each new episode. You can follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram - @thegradingpod. To leave us a comment, please go to our website: www.thegradingpod.com and leave a comment on this episode's page.

    If you would like to be considered to be a guest on this show, please reach out using the Contact Us form on our website, www.thegradingpod.com.

    All content of this podcast and website are solely the opinions of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily represent the views of California State University Los Angeles or the Los Angeles Unified School District.

    Music

    Country Rock performed by Lite Saturation

    Country Rock by Lite Saturation is licensed under a Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International License.

    1 hr
  • 43 - Alt Grading as a Team: Course Coordination, PLCs, course teams - how to do this together!

    In this episode, Sharona and Bosley discuss some of the details of how to manage doing alternatively grading as a team. Given the extremely personal nature of grading, what are some of the steps needed to allow for personalization in an environment that is designed to have all the course sections be closely aligned.

    Links

    Please note - any books linked here are likely Amazon Associates links. Clicking on them and purchasing through them helps support the show. Thanks for your support!

    • Learning by Doing, 4th Edition, Richard Dufour, Et. Al.
    • PLC+: Better Decisions and Greater Impact by Design, Fisher, Et. Al.
    • Course Coordinator Orientations Toward their Work and Opportunities for Professional Development, Martinez, Et. Al.

    Resources

    The Grading Conference - an annual, online conference exploring Alternative Grading in Higher Education & K-12.

    Some great resources to educate yourself about Alternative Grading:

    • The Grading for Growth Blog
    • The Grading Conference
    • The Intentional Academia Blog

    Recommended Books on Alternative Grading (Please note - any books linked here are likely Amazon Associates links. Purchasing through them helps support the show. Thanks for your support!):

    • Grading for Growth, by Robert Talbert and David Clark
    • Specifications Grading, by Linda Nilsen
    • Undoing the Grade, by Jesse Stommel
    • Grading for Equity, by Joe Feldman

    The Grading Podcast publishes every week on Tuesday at 4 AM Pacific time, so be sure to subscribe and get notified of each new episode. You can follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram - @thegradingpod. To leave us a comment, please go to our website: www.thegradingpod.com and leave a comment on this episode's page.

    If you would like to be considered to be a guest on this show, please reach out using the Contact Us form on our website, www.thegradingpod.com.

    All content of this podcast and website are solely the opinions of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily represent the views of California State University Los Angeles or the Los Angeles Unified School District.

    Music

    Country Rock performed by Lite Saturation

    Country Rock by Lite Saturation is licensed under a Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International License.

    55 min
  • 42 - Metacognition, Power Structures in the Classroom, what is reasonable to expect of students? An Interview with Dr. Theresa Gaines.

    In this episode, Sharona and Boz sit down with Dr. Theresa Gaines (Gath) to talk about how they think about metacognition and power structures in the classroom. Having introduced ungrading in their previous institution, Gath shares how they are using ungrading and the principles of ungrading to address power structures in the classroom in their new institution. We also talk about metacognition, the level of work it is for students, and ways in which we, as instructors, might help students learn to effectively think about their own thinking.

    Links

    Please note - any books linked here are likely Amazon Associates links. Clicking on them and purchasing through them helps support the show. Thanks for your support!

    • The Reflective Practitioner: How Professionals Think In Action, Donald Schoen
    • Iterate: Ten Lessons in Design and Failure, John Sharp and Colleen Macklin
    • The ICAP Framework: Linking Cognitive Engagement to Active Learning Outcomes, Michelene T. H. Chi and Ruth Wylie

    Resources

    The Grading Conference - an annual, online conference exploring Alternative Grading in Higher Education & K-12.

    Some great resources to educate yourself about Alternative Grading:

    • The Grading for Growth Blog
    • The Grading Conference
    • The Intentional Academia Blog

    Recommended Books on Alternative Grading (Please note - any books linked here are likely Amazon Associates links. Purchasing through them helps support the show. Thanks for your support!):

    • Grading for Growth, by Robert Talbert and David Clark
    • Specifications Grading, by Linda Nilsen
    • Undoing the Grade, by Jesse Stommel
    • Grading for Equity, by Joe Feldman

    The Grading Podcast publishes every week on Tuesday at 4 AM Pacific time, so be sure to subscribe and get notified of each new episode. You can follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram - @thegradingpod. To leave us a comment, please go to our website: www.thegradingpod.com and leave a comment on this episode's page.

    If you would like to be considered to be a guest on this show, please reach out using the Contact Us form on our website, www.thegradingpod.com.

    All content of this podcast and website are solely the opinions of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily represent the views of California State University Los Angeles or the Los Angeles Unified School District.

    Music

    Country Rock performed by Lite Saturation

    Country Rock by Lite Saturation is licensed under a Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International License.

    56 min

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Grading is an extremely important and largely unexamined piece of the classroom puzzle. In this weekly podcast, Sharona Krinsky and Robert Bosley, two long time classroom instructors from the K-12 and…

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