What if the Bible isn’t just a book to study, but a love story inviting you into a deeper relationship with God?
In episode five of our Summer Recap Series, Shelley Giglio sits down with beloved Bible teacher and longtime friend Lisa Harper for an honest and hope-filled conversation about knowing the God of the Bible—not just knowing about Him.
Lisa shares how God has patiently pursued her through seasons of doubt, disappointment, fear, failure, and loss, teaching her that true freedom isn’t found in performing, pretending, or presenting a polished version of ourselves. It’s found in believing that we are already fully loved by Jesus.
Together, Shelley and Lisa talk about the difference between religion and relationship, the importance of knowing Scripture for ourselves, and how theology isn’t just a subject to study. It’s a conversation with a God who desires to be known.
From Lisa’s journey into public ministry to the story of adopting her daughter Missy, she shares how God redeems what feels irreparable and meets us with His kindness in the places we feel most broken.
If you’ve ever felt like you have to clean yourself up before coming to God, this conversation is a reminder: Jesus is not a scowling Savior waiting for you to get it right. He is a loving Father inviting you closer. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

What if the Bible isn’t just a book to study, but a love story inviting you into a deeper relationship with God? In episode five of our Summer Recap Series, Shelley Giglio sits down with beloved Bible teacher and longtime friend Lisa Harper for an honest and hope-filled conversation about knowing the God of the Bible—not just knowing about Him. Lisa shares how God has patiently pursued her through seasons of doubt, disappointment, fear, failure, and loss, teaching her that true freedom isn’t found in performing, pretending, or presenting a polished version of ourselves. It’s found in believing that we are already fully loved by Jesus. Together, Shelley and Lisa talk about the difference between religion and relationship, the importance of knowing Scripture for ourselves, and how theology isn’t just a subject to study. It’s a conversation with a God who desires to be known. From Lisa’s journey into public ministry to the story of adopting her daughter Missy, she shares how God redeems what feels irreparable and meets us with His kindness in the places we feel most broken. If you’ve ever felt like you have to clean yourself up before coming to God, this conversation is a reminder: Jesus is not a scowling Savior waiting for you to get it right. He is a loving Father inviting you closer. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

What if the Bible isn’t just a book to study, but a love story inviting you into a deeper relationship with God?
In episode five of our Summer Recap Series, Shelley Giglio sits down with beloved Bible teacher and longtime friend Lisa Harper for an honest and hope-filled conversation about knowing the God of the Bible—not just knowing about Him.
Lisa shares how God has patiently pursued her through seasons of doubt, disappointment, fear, failure, and loss, teaching her that true freedom isn’t found in performing, pretending, or presenting a polished version of ourselves. It’s found in believing that we are already fully loved by Jesus.
Together, Shelley and Lisa talk about the difference between religion and relationship, the importance of knowing Scripture for ourselves, and how theology isn’t just a subject to study. It’s a conversation with a God who desires to be known.
From Lisa’s journey into public ministry to the story of adopting her daughter Missy, she shares how God redeems what feels irreparable and meets us with His kindness in the places we feel most broken.
If you’ve ever felt like you have to clean yourself up before coming to God, this conversation is a reminder: Jesus is not a scowling Savior waiting for you to get it right. He is a loving Father inviting you closer. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com" rel="noopener noreferrer">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The Greatest Love Story :: Lisa Harper

What does it look like to stay planted in Jesus when life feels uncertain, uncomfortable, or costly?
In episode one of our Summer Recap Series, Shelley Giglio sits down with Grammy Award-winning songwriter, worship leader, and longtime friend Brooke Ligertwood to talk about anointing, obedience, creativity, and surrender.
Together, they explore the weight and wonder of being entrusted with God’s calling… and how true freedom is often found not in striving, but in faithfully staying with Jesus one day at a time.
Brooke shares personal stories about discovering songwriting at a young age, stewarding creativity through both worship, and learning that the goal of her life isn’t success or recognition, but simply to remain close to Jesus. Shelley and Brooke also reflect on the beauty of being “good trees” – rooted, nourished, and trusting God alone with the fruit their lives produce.
This conversation is for anyone who feels stretched, misunderstood, weary, or unsure of what obedience looks like in this season. You’ll walk away encouraged to stay planted, take heart, and trust God with the outcome!
If you want more from Brooke, you can find her at @brookeligertwood on Instagram or www.brookeligertwood.com. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

What does it look like to stay planted in Jesus when life feels uncertain, uncomfortable, or costly? In episode one of our Summer Recap Series, Shelley Giglio sits down with Grammy Award-winning songwriter, worship leader, and longtime friend Brooke Ligertwood to talk about anointing, obedience, creativity, and surrender. Together, they explore the weight and wonder of being entrusted with God’s calling… and how true freedom is often found not in striving, but in faithfully staying with Jesus one day at a time. Brooke shares personal stories about discovering songwriting at a young age, stewarding creativity through both worship, and learning that the goal of her life isn’t success or recognition, but simply to remain close to Jesus. Shelley and Brooke also reflect on the beauty of being “good trees” – rooted, nourished, and trusting God alone with the fruit their lives produce. This conversation is for anyone who feels stretched, misunderstood, weary, or unsure of what obedience looks like in this season. You’ll walk away encouraged to stay planted, take heart, and trust God with the outcome! If you want more from Brooke, you can find her at @brookeligertwood on Instagram or www.brookeligertwood.com. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

What does it look like to stay planted in Jesus when life feels uncertain, uncomfortable, or costly?
In episode one of our Summer Recap Series, Shelley Giglio sits down with Grammy Award-winning songwriter, worship leader, and longtime friend Brooke Ligertwood to talk about anointing, obedience, creativity, and surrender.
Together, they explore the weight and wonder of being entrusted with God’s calling… and how true freedom is often found not in striving, but in faithfully staying with Jesus one day at a time.
Brooke shares personal stories about discovering songwriting at a young age, stewarding creativity through both worship, and learning that the goal of her life isn’t success or recognition, but simply to remain close to Jesus. Shelley and Brooke also reflect on the beauty of being “good trees” – rooted, nourished, and trusting God alone with the fruit their lives produce.
This conversation is for anyone who feels stretched, misunderstood, weary, or unsure of what obedience looks like in this season. You’ll walk away encouraged to stay planted, take heart, and trust God with the outcome!
If you want more from Brooke, you can find her at @brookeligertwood on Instagram or www.brookeligertwood.com. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com" rel="noopener noreferrer">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The Choice to Be a Good Tree :: Brooke Ligertwood

In this episode of The Grove Podcast, Shelley Giglio sits down with her dear friend and a long-time Grove girl, Courtney Pray Duke, to celebrate the release of Courtney’s book And She Got Up : Shattered by Loss, Restored by Jesus and to trace the journey that shaped it. Courtney shares how everything changed in her life the day Andrew died in a bicycle accident — an instant that turned a bright day into “the darkest night of the soul.”With honesty and tenderness, Courtney recounts the disorienting fog of grief, the fight to keep going for her three young children, and the unexpected ways God met her in the lowest moments. From a pivotal encounter with God at Passion 2013 to the daily practice of anchoring her life in scripture, Courtney unpacks how faith can be tested in the fire — and how God’s presence can become most real in the valley.Shelley and Courtney also talk about the power of community, learning to speak truth out loud, and the long obedience of writing the story down. Ultimately, this conversation is an invitation: if Jesus brought life to her story, He can bring life to yours too. And She Got Up releases on February 24, but you can pre-order your copy today. Learn more at <a href="http://andshegotup.com">AndSheGotUp.com</a> and keep up with Courtney on her Instagram @CourtneyPrayDuke.The Grove is an extension of all God is doing at Passion City Church in Atlanta, Georgia. To learn more, follow us on Instagram @pcc_thegrove or visit thegroveonline.com to get connected. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of The Grove Podcast, Shelley Giglio sits down with her dear friend and a long-time Grove girl, Courtney Pray Duke, to celebrate the release of Courtney’s book And She Got Up : Shattered by Loss, Restored by Jesus and to trace the journey that shaped it. Courtney shares how everything changed in her life the day Andrew died in a bicycle accident — an instant that turned a bright day into “the darkest night of the soul.” With honesty and tenderness, Courtney recounts the disorienting fog of grief, the fight to keep going for her three young children, and the unexpected ways God met her in the lowest moments. From a pivotal encounter with God at Passion 2013 to the daily practice of anchoring her life in scripture, Courtney unpacks how faith can be tested in the fire — and how God’s presence can become most real in the valley. Shelley and Courtney also talk about the power of community, learning to speak truth out loud, and the long obedience of writing the story down. Ultimately, this conversation is an invitation: if Jesus brought life to her story, He can bring life to yours too. And She Got Up releases on February 24, but you can pre-order your copy today. Learn more at AndSheGotUp.com and keep up with Courtney on her Instagram @CourtneyPrayDuke. The Grove is an extension of all God is doing at Passion City Church in Atlanta, Georgia. To learn more, follow us on Instagram @pcc_thegrove or visit thegroveonline.com to get connected. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of The Grove Podcast, Shelley Giglio sits down with her dear friend and a long-time Grove girl, Courtney Pray Duke, to celebrate the release of Courtney’s book And She Got Up : Shattered by Loss, Restored by Jesus and to trace the journey that shaped it. Courtney shares how everything changed in her life the day Andrew died in a bicycle accident — an instant that turned a bright day into “the darkest night of the soul.”With honesty and tenderness, Courtney recounts the disorienting fog of grief, the fight to keep going for her three young children, and the unexpected ways God met her in the lowest moments. From a pivotal encounter with God at Passion 2013 to the daily practice of anchoring her life in scripture, Courtney unpacks how faith can be tested in the fire — and how God’s presence can become most real in the valley.Shelley and Courtney also talk about the power of community, learning to speak truth out loud, and the long obedience of writing the story down. Ultimately, this conversation is an invitation: if Jesus brought life to her story, He can bring life to yours too. And She Got Up releases on February 24, but you can pre-order your copy today. Learn more at <a href="http://andshegotup.com" rel="noopener noreferrer">AndSheGotUp.com</a> and keep up with Courtney on her Instagram @CourtneyPrayDuke.The Grove is an extension of all God is doing at Passion City Church in Atlanta, Georgia. To learn more, follow us on Instagram @pcc_thegrove or visit thegroveonline.com to get connected. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com" rel="noopener noreferrer">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

And She Got Up : Shattered by Loss, Restored by Jesus :: Courtney Pray Duke

In a brand new episode of The Grove Podcast, Shelley Giglio is joined by the brilliant and bold Jackie Hill Perry for a conversation about faith, formation, and the unexpected places God does His deepest work.Together, Shelley and Jackie unpack the wrestle with ambition, the gift of hidden seasons, and how God often meets us in our lack to show us that He alone is enough.They explore the importance of spiritual disciplines — not as rigid rules but as pathways to freedom, relationship, and fruitfulness. And they encourage us to believe that God really does use every part of our story to make us more like Jesus.Wherever you are — leading, waiting, hoping, or trying your best to believe — it’s our prayer that this conversation will lift your eyes to His presence and His power at work in your life.The Grove is an extension of all God is doing at Passion City Church in Atlanta, Georgia. To learn more, follow us on Instagram @pcc_thegrove or visit thegroveonline.com to get connected. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In a brand new episode of The Grove Podcast, Shelley Giglio is joined by the brilliant and bold Jackie Hill Perry for a conversation about faith, formation, and the unexpected places God does His deepest work. Together, Shelley and Jackie unpack the wrestle with ambition, the gift of hidden seasons, and how God often meets us in our lack to show us that He alone is enough. They explore the importance of spiritual disciplines — not as rigid rules but as pathways to freedom, relationship, and fruitfulness. And they encourage us to believe that God really does use every part of our story to make us more like Jesus. Wherever you are — leading, waiting, hoping, or trying your best to believe — it’s our prayer that this conversation will lift your eyes to His presence and His power at work in your life. The Grove is an extension of all God is doing at Passion City Church in Atlanta, Georgia. To learn more, follow us on Instagram @pcc_thegrove or visit thegroveonline.com to get connected. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In a brand new episode of The Grove Podcast, Shelley Giglio is joined by the brilliant and bold Jackie Hill Perry for a conversation about faith, formation, and the unexpected places God does His deepest work.Together, Shelley and Jackie unpack the wrestle with ambition, the gift of hidden seasons, and how God often meets us in our lack to show us that He alone is enough.They explore the importance of spiritual disciplines — not as rigid rules but as pathways to freedom, relationship, and fruitfulness. And they encourage us to believe that God really does use every part of our story to make us more like Jesus.Wherever you are — leading, waiting, hoping, or trying your best to believe — it’s our prayer that this conversation will lift your eyes to His presence and His power at work in your life.The Grove is an extension of all God is doing at Passion City Church in Atlanta, Georgia. To learn more, follow us on Instagram @pcc_thegrove or visit thegroveonline.com to get connected. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com" rel="noopener noreferrer">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The Powerful Work of Quiet Discipline :: Jackie Hill Perry

Hannah Brencher interviews Shelley Giglio on digging deep with Jesus, simple obedience, and knowing the answer before the question is asked. Recorded live at The Grove from Passion City Church. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hannah Brencher interviews Shelley Giglio on digging deep with Jesus, simple obedience, and knowing the answer before the question is asked. Recorded live at The Grove from Passion City Church. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hannah Brencher interviews Shelley Giglio on digging deep with Jesus, simple obedience, and knowing the answer before the question is asked. Recorded live at The Grove from Passion City Church. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com" rel="noopener noreferrer">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Layer By Layer :: Shelley Giglio with Hannah Brencher

Streaming from Passion City Church, the Grove Podcast is designed to encourage women to become ROOTED in the unfailing Word of God, to choose to FLOURISH where we’re planted, to walk in FREEDOM in Christ and truly live, and to offer our lives as SHADE to the people who intersect our paths in our city. The Grove Podcast is hosted by Shelley Giglio and other women of the Grove. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Streaming from Passion City Church, the Grove Podcast is designed to encourage women to become ROOTED in the unfailing Word of God, to choose to FLOURISH where we’re planted, to walk in FREEDOM in Christ and truly live, and to offer our lives as SHADE to the people who intersect our paths in our city. The Grove Podcast is hosted by Shelley Giglio and other women of the Grove. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Streaming from Passion City Church, the Grove Podcast is designed to encourage women to become ROOTED in the unfailing Word of God, to choose to FLOURISH where we’re planted, to walk in FREEDOM in Christ and truly live, and to offer our lives as SHADE to the people who intersect our paths in our city. The Grove Podcast is hosted by Shelley Giglio and other women of the Grove. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com" rel="noopener noreferrer">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The Grove Podcast Introduction

Streaming from Passion City Church, the Grove Podcast is designed to encourage women to become ROOTED in the unfailing Word of God, to choose to FLOURISH where we’re planted, to walk in FREEDOM in Christ and truly live, and to offer our lives as SHADE to the people who intersect our paths in our city. The Grove Podcast is hosted by Shelley Giglio and other women of The Grove.

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