On this episode, Oren is joined by journalist and best-selling author Sarah Smarsh to make sense of the ongoing political realignment in America's Heartland.

Smarsh, who hails from rural Kansas, draws from her own upbringing to explain the forces pushing rural working-class voters away from the Democratic Party, often after decades of voting for it.

She and Oren also discuss her new book, Bone of the Bone, which focuses on this shift and other aspects of life in rural America, and the two unpack how it all intersects with the rise of former President Donald Trump and changes in the Republican Party.

For more, check out Smarsh's latest book, Bone of the Bone: Essays on America by a Daughter of the Working Class.