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What does it take to win Comrades and still love every step of the journey? In this deep, heartfelt, and raw conversation, Brad chats to the 2025 Comrades Marathon women's champion, Gerda Steyn, just weeks after her victory. 

They unpack the mental strength it takes to race 90km, why she prefers the up run, how she trains for both versions of Comrades, and what it really means to carry the weight of a nation’s hopes on race day.