Former Chicago mayor and chief of staff to President Obama Rahm Emanuel joins "The Investigation." Emanuel, now an ABC News contributor, offers that censure in a Senate trial may be best option: "they may hit him with a yellow card...and that would be condemnation and censure." The former White House chief strategist during President Clinton's impeachment trial also makes note of the stark difference between the two president’s responses: "[Trump] is his own war room." And as more witnesses are lined up to testify in public hearings, Emanuel cautions, when asked about the significance of "star witnesses": "Don’t go chasing rabbits down rabbit holes...the king of kings here is the President of the United States."

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The impeachment process for a sitting president can be a daunting task. Just ask Arkansas Governor Asa Hutchinson, formerly a Congressman from Arkansas who served on the House Judiciary Committee during impeachment proceedings against Clinton. Hutchinson, who was one of 13 "prosecutors" – referred to as House Managers- during Clinton's impeachment trial in the Senate, sits down for an interview with "The Investigation" co-hosts Chris Vlasto and John Santucci. "It [was] an unwise call," Hutchinson said, referring to that July 25th phone call between President Trump and Ukrainian president Zelenskiy, adding "but that doesn't mean that a president ought to be impeached." As the House gears up for two days of the first public testimony surrounding the impeachment inquiry, Hutchinson reminds: "you cannot impeach a sitting president without the support of the American public...you’re not going to gain the confidence of the American public without having public testimony." ABC News senior congressional correspondent Mary Bruce also joins.

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"The Investigation" co-hosts Chris Vlasto and John Santucci interview two recipients of the International Women's Media Foundation "Courage in Journalism" award: Ukrainian journalists Nastya Stanko and Anna Babinets. Stanko, a war reporter who is often on the front lines of conflict in Eastern Ukraine and was once held hostage while on the job, stressed the importance of US military aid because even with peace agreements, "nobody believes Putin" and "if we will have this military aid from US, we will have this protection. And for people in Ukraine, it's also very important that we have this partner." Babinets, an investigative journalist focused on government corruption and big crime in Ukraine, explained their fears and frustration with reporting in their home country: "we almost never get our words in Ukraine because in some point and some understanding, we are kind of enemies of Ukraine." "The Investigation" also catches up with senior national correspondent Terry Moran and Capitol Hill reporter Katherine Faulders, breaking down the latest news on the impeachment inquiry.

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President Donald Trump's first Homeland Security Adviser and current ABC News contributor, Tom Bossert, tells The Investigation co-hosts, Chris Vlasto and John Santucci, that President Trump's lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, is in a position to give the President "bad advice." Bossert provides an insider's look at the Trump administration's relationship with government institutions: "that trust has been broken in a lot of ways." Plus, Bossert talks about miscommunication within the administration: "If they're not coordinated, you run into problems."

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As Congressional committees continue their investigations as part of the impeachment inquiry, "The Investigation" co-hosts Chris Vlasto and John Santucci sit down with veteran attorney Greg Craig, who represented President Clinton during his senate impeachment trial. Mr. Craig, who also served as White House counsel in the Obama administration, was asked by "The Investigation" if he had any advice for President Trump and his attorney Rudy Giuliani: "When you’re in a hole, I would stop digging."

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"The Investigation" offers an early preview of Amy Robach's exclusive interview with Hunter Biden. Now, two of the producers who booked and produced the highly sought after interview, Victoria Thompson and Nadine Shubailat, sit down with "Investigation" co-host Chris Vlasto and discuss the critical points from the interview, including Hunter Biden's adamant response he did nothing improper when he joined Burisma's board, but saying "I'm a human...did I make a mistake? Well, maybe in the grand scheme of things, yeah." Then, our co-hosts break down the latest legal and political questions surrounding the impeachment inquiry with two ABC News contributors: former Congresswoman Barbara Comstock and former Obama White House lawyer and law professor Kate Shaw.

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Coming on the heels of ABC News' exclusive reporting that a second whistleblower has stepped forward to express concerns about President's Trump's July 25th phone call with the President of Ukraine, the team from "The Investigation" gets the very latest from the reporter who broke the story. Brad Moss, a lawyer who specializes in whistleblower law, also weighs in on his concerns about protecting the whistleblower's identity in light of President Trump's claims that he deserves the right to confront his accuser. "If the president wants to be able to invoke his sixth amendment rights to confront his accusers, he can have DOJ rescind the memo saying he can't be indicted and we can try this through the criminal process. I don't think he wants that," Moss tells "The Investigation."

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After a brief hiatus, "The Investigation" is back and diving into all angles of the launch of the impeachment inquiry against President Trump. As six House committees continue their individual investigations under an impeachment inquiry umbrella, what does this mean for the President and the country leading up to the 2020 election. Senior Congressional correspondent Mary Bruce joins from Capitol Hill, along with senior national correspondent Terry Moran, who offers his perspective on the rough transcript released by the White House, a transcript described as "not verbatim" of President Trump's "perfect" phone call with the Ukrainian president: "Ten words. I'd like you to do us a favor though."  

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We're going on hiatus while we work on some new investigations - stay subscribed for updates. In the meantime, check out today's episode ABC News' daily podcast, "Start Here." If you like it, search for "Start Here" in your app and subscribe today.

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-- Start Here: The daily 20-minute news podcast from ABC News. http://bit.ly/2SA62eg

-- Powerhouse Politics: Headliner interviews and in-depth looks at the people and events shaping U.S. politics. http://bit.ly/2SsGwr7

-- FiveThirtyEight Politics: Nate Silver and the FiveThirtyEight team cover the latest in politics, tracking the issues and "game-changers" every week. https://53eig.ht/2RF3eb1

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